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notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 06:07 PM Jan 2018

All of a sudden the reps and trump really, really want bipartisanship.

Anyway i’ve Been half listening to msnbc this afternoon , while I clean house, and have heard a few republicans, McConnell? And trump come out from Camp David to say, they really, really want bipartisan relationships with the Democrats. REALLY? Let’s look at this; Were they bipartisan last year with the tax bill, the committees on Russian interference, trying to repeal ACA? Did we get to speak even? How about Gorsech? How about how they tried to be bipartisany during the Obama Administration?

One thing they want is an 18 billion wall in the budget (in return for DACA and CHP?, what we want). They can’t pass the budget without us and want to stick a bunch more of their crap in there. If dems make nice or cave to these MF who have already gotten enough goodies to break the bank and load our children and grandchildren with forever debt, I will throw my hands in the air and then puke. Make a stand Democrats! At this point I don’t care if the government gets shut down. We are always paying their blackmail.

Should Democrats work with republicans?


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All of a sudden the reps and trump really, really want bipartisanship. (Original Post) notdarkyet Jan 2018 OP
Yeah, but did they invite Democrats to Camp David? C_U_L8R Jan 2018 #1
Not with the current crop at least. Salviati Jan 2018 #2
How I feel. notdarkyet Jan 2018 #3
We really, really need to learn how to play Phoenix61 Jan 2018 #4
Only if they repeal and replace the tax bill-which they will never do. bronxiteforever Jan 2018 #5
In this climate, no. PatrickforO Jan 2018 #6
It would be easier on your clothes if you bent over, rzemanfl Jan 2018 #7
GOP is so predictable. It's an election year and they want to create the illusion democratisphere Jan 2018 #8
I know thats their game.....but the Dems need to at least show some a kennedy Jan 2018 #10
They should just tell the truth. Salviati Jan 2018 #12
The GOP needs to be fully responsible for the state of the country in 2018 elections... TeamPooka Jan 2018 #9
Never! world wide wally Jan 2018 #11
Offer to work with them to the same extent they worked with us for the past 8 years. SeattleVet Jan 2018 #13

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
2. Not with the current crop at least.
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 06:12 PM
Jan 2018

We need to be fighting them tooth and nail until they get knocked down to a minority rump party for a generation or so. Then we can talk about bipartisanship again.

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
4. We really, really need to learn how to play
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 06:15 PM
Jan 2018

chicken and win. The repubs count on us to be nice and they use that to their advantage. We have got to get better at getting out ahead of the story and crafting the message instead of always playing defense.

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
5. Only if they repeal and replace the tax bill-which they will never do.
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 06:15 PM
Jan 2018

And we should demand this because they passed it without us. That would be a show of bipartisanship. Demand all the deductions come back on.
We want income fairness for the middle and working classes and reinstate the ACA provision struck down. And when they don’t agree beat them over the head with it everyday.

PatrickforO

(14,574 posts)
6. In this climate, no.
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 06:16 PM
Jan 2018

If we are actually able to resurrect our Republic from the current polar insanity, then yes, this is the type of government our founders set up. Checks and balances with plenty of debate and compromise.

God, we need that back!

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
8. GOP is so predictable. It's an election year and they want to create the illusion
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 06:36 PM
Jan 2018

that they are bipartisan. Who is kidding who?

a kennedy

(29,663 posts)
10. I know thats their game.....but the Dems need to at least show some
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 06:40 PM
Jan 2018

bipartisan effort.....looks bad if they don’t they need to play the game as well. JMHO.

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
12. They should just tell the truth.
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 07:31 PM
Jan 2018

The republicans have a majority in both houses of congress and the presidents pen. They can do anything they want to. They only want democratic votes so that the democrats will be complicit in the terrible outcomes of their disastrous ideas as well, and they aren't the only ones on the hook for the inevitable consequences of conservative ideology run amok.

TeamPooka

(24,226 posts)
9. The GOP needs to be fully responsible for the state of the country in 2018 elections...
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 06:36 PM
Jan 2018

The only thing Democrats can get is crumbs from this GOP while they feed the super rich our whole Treasury so NO, they should not work with or do anything to help GOP.
Even the GOP infrastructure plan is just privatization and corporate tax breaks.
So fuck them, they get no budget.
There's nothing to win from these Republicans so in order for things to get better, they first must get much worse, like the last time the GOP was in total control of our country that led to the crash of 2008.
Only then does the nation realize we Democrats are better at running America than Republicans.


SeattleVet

(5,477 posts)
13. Offer to work with them to the same extent they worked with us for the past 8 years.
Sat Jan 6, 2018, 07:47 PM
Jan 2018

No more, and no less (it would be hard to do any less than they did).

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