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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts) Tue Jan 9, 2018, 12:11 PM Jan 2018

Tillerson and Mattis are reportedly trying to hold Trump back from striking North Korea

Tillerson and Mattis are reportedly trying to hold Trump back from striking North Korea
Alex Lockie Business Insider

President Donald Trump's secretaries of state and defense are trying to persuade him not to strike North Korea, while his national security adviser is pushing for a "bloody nose" attack, according to recent reports in The Telegraph and The Wall Street Journal.

Rex Tillerson, the secretary of state, has reportedly been key in pushing for peace, but he may be on his way out.

A US strike would mean it implicitly trusts that North Korea's leader, Kim Jong Un, wouldn't escalate it into an all-out war that could kill millions.

The Trump administration is debating a "bloody nose" attack on North Korea, recent reports say, with the president's inner circle split and apparently teetering between endorsing a strike and holding out hope for diplomacy.

The bloody-nose strategy, which calls for a sharp, violent response to some North Korean provocation, puts a lot of weight on the US's properly calibrating an attack on North Korea and Pyongyang's reading the limited strike as anything other than the opening salvo of an all-out war.

http://www.businessinsider.com/tillerson-mattis-trump-north-korea-strike-2018-1

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Tillerson and Mattis are reportedly trying to hold Trump back from striking North Korea (Original Post) workinclasszero Jan 2018 OP

Trump needs to be in a strait jacket. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2018 #1

Thread Winner! Absolutely spanone Jan 2018 #8

So millions will die cause Trump wants people to think he has a big penis? SummerSnow Jan 2018 #2

pResident Bone Spurs the draft dodger workinclasszero Jan 2018 #5

...and, possibly, a whole lot here as well. regnaD kciN Jan 2018 #10

Well the range of NK nukes would put west coast blue states in peril workinclasszero Jan 2018 #12

they are morons and insane if they think NK will tolerate a "bloody nose".... steve2470 Jan 2018 #3

One does not simply attack North Korea....... ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2018 #4

Well, China, in any event... regnaD kciN Jan 2018 #11

I know it's a pipe dream, but can only pray for a 25th Amendment solution. bullwinkle428 Jan 2018 #6

If the entire republican party were not bought and paid for employees of workinclasszero Jan 2018 #7

Both Bush I and Bush II attacked countries in the middle east. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #9

it's not just trump!! Locrian Jan 2018 #13

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)

1. Trump needs to be in a strait jacket.

Reply to workinclasszero (Original post)

Tue Jan 9, 2018, 12:13 PM

Jan 2018

This guy is out of his mind.

spanone

(135,866 posts)

8. Thread Winner! Absolutely

Reply to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 9, 2018, 12:30 PM

Jan 2018

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)

2. So millions will die cause Trump wants people to think he has a big penis?

Reply to workinclasszero (Original post)

Tue Jan 9, 2018, 12:16 PM

Jan 2018

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)

5. pResident Bone Spurs the draft dodger

Reply to SummerSnow (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 9, 2018, 12:23 PM

Jan 2018

wants to prove how tough he is by killing millions on the Korean peninsula and probably lots of Japanese as well.

What could possibly go wrong?

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)

10. ...and, possibly, a whole lot here as well.

Reply to workinclasszero (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 9, 2018, 12:39 PM

Jan 2018

Leaving aside the South Koreans and Japanese (because Trump obviously doesn't care about non-white people), or the fact that such a war would result in the deaths of thousands of U.S. service personnel stationed there (because Trump obviously doesn't care about those "losers" who didn't have a rich daddy to keep them out of combat), such an attack would still be a massive gamble that NK hasn't actually miniaturized nukes, built a whole bunch of them, and mounted them on ICBMs. Now, probably they haven't yet -- but we won't know for certain unless we carry out our "limited" attack and wait to see whether or not the 5-10 incoming nuclear missiles show up on the radar screens. Do we feel lucky?

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)

12. Well the range of NK nukes would put west coast blue states in peril

Reply to regnaD kciN (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 9, 2018, 12:46 PM

Jan 2018

So Fuhrer Dump and his traitor party would count a strike there as a bonus, no doubt.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)

3. they are morons and insane if they think NK will tolerate a "bloody nose"....

Reply to workinclasszero (Original post)

Tue Jan 9, 2018, 12:17 PM

Jan 2018

They will attack South Korea and Japan, and attempt to attack us also.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,788 posts)

4. One does not simply attack North Korea.......

Reply to workinclasszero (Original post)

Tue Jan 9, 2018, 12:23 PM

Jan 2018

and expect no one to get killed. This is folly!

If Trump calls for an attack on North Korea, kiss the future, the environment, our Democracy goodbye. The blood of millions in South Korea, Japan, N. Korea, and elsewhere will hang in the balance because of one man's preoccupation with the size of his "NUCLEAR BUTTON".

Don't expect Russia and China to sit back and allow N. Korea to take it. This would be the start of WWIII, but with greater consequences. The United States would have no allies to support us.

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)

11. Well, China, in any event...

Reply to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 9, 2018, 12:42 PM

Jan 2018

I would thoroughly expect Putin to sit back, declare "neutrality," and watch in satisfaction as his two global rivals destroy each other, making him the Czar of the unquestioned sole remaining superpower in the world.