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Today, upon news that Sally Ride, the first woman in space, had passed away, Mitt Romney called her one of America's "great pioneers."
I have a question (a question shared by many): is Romney satisfied that Ride's partner of 27 years, Tam O'Shaughnessy, will be denied federal benefits because of the Defense of Marriage Act?
Is Romney happy that the partner of a woman he today described as "a profile in courage" will not be afforded the same benefits as those who are, shall we say, less worthy profiles in courage?
Is Romney beaming that the partner of the first woman in space -- about whom he said, "Ride inspired millions of Americans with her determination to break the mold of her time" -- will not receive the federal benefits received by millions of others?
We know the answer.
Which is why it's time to break the mold of our time. The mold of homophobia and anti-gay bigotry that continues to treat segments of our population as less than equal.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/23/1113014/-DOMA-Sally-Ride-s-Partner-of-27-Years-Denied-Federal-Benefits-Is-Romney-Smiling
spanone
(135,844 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)to cover the none federal employee. I may be wrong but:
"The rules with potentially the greatest financial benefit would create a presumption that same-sex domestic partners who meet certain qualifications are eligible for a form of retirement survivor annuity called an insurable interest annuity. That benefit provides lifelong payments to the survivor of a federal retiree, much as a standard survivor annuity does for a spouse, although it is slightly less generous. "
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/federal-eye/post/expansion-of-several-federal-employee-benefits-to-same-sex-partners-planned/2012/07/19/gJQAw2MAwW_blog.html
Edit to add that I am not sure what the "certain qualifications" are.
handmade34
(22,756 posts)all the hypocrisy must come to a boiling point and spill over...
AnnieBW
(10,429 posts)Unaware, but not surprised.
As a gay male who had to hide my orientation for years at work she probably had to hide hers to become an astronaut. But after she retired from NASA I hope she was able to live as herself with her partner.
I sincerely doubt she would have wanted to be known as "the lesbian astronaut." So she apparently didn't make much out of it.
I will still refer to her as the "First US Woman" to go into space.
Mimosa
(9,131 posts)I totally agree.
trumad
(41,692 posts)Valentina Vladimirovna Tereshkova-- A Russian.
TalkingDog
(9,001 posts)They both stated, unequivocally, US.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)malaise
(269,054 posts)or he would not have called her name
nikto
(3,284 posts)And heck, he's only a US Presidential candidate.
snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)TheDebbieDee
(11,119 posts)Maybe at that time she wanted to be with a man. And when that time was over, she found another person that she wanted to be with who happened be a woman.
I'm not understanding why many people still try to categorize sexual preference as straight or gay. I believe that there are three sexual preferences: straight, gay and bi-sexual.
Mimosa
(9,131 posts)Back in the early 1950s Kinsey documented peoples sexual fluidity.
johnnypneumatic
(599 posts)'Sexual preference' implies it is all just a choice.
But you are right, bisexual is an orientation. Many and perhaps most people are bisexual to some degree
FreeState
(10,572 posts)not that it matter one bit. And its ORIENTATION not preference. (Believe me there were plenty of times as a kid where I preferred to be straight.)
http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/pulp/2012/07/former_astronaut_sally_ride_re.php
The announcement puts the start of their relationship at around 1985 -- while Ride was still married to fellow astronaut Steven Hawley. Sally Ride Science spokeswoman Terry McEntee confirmed the announcement -- when asked if Ride was gay, she said, "Yes. That's true. What's on the website is true."
Ride's sister, Bear, who is also gay, told New Times Monday night that her sister never publicly revealed her sexual orientation because of a closely held commitment to her personal privacy.
"Sally was a profoundly private person. It was just part of who she was. We chalk that up to being Norwegian," Bear said. "She had a sense of 'this is family stuff.'"
http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation.aspx
Sexual orientation refers to an enduring pattern of emotional, romantic, and/or sexual attractions to men, women, or both sexes. Sexual orientation also refers to a persons sense of identity based on those attractions, related behaviors, and membership in a community of others who share those attractions. Research over several decades has demonstrated that sexual orientation ranges along a continuum, from exclusive attraction to the other sex to exclusive attraction to the same sex. However, sexual orientation is usually discussed in terms of three categories: heterosexual (having emotional, romantic, or sexual attractions to members of the other sex), gay/lesbian (having emotional, romantic, or sexual attractions to members of ones own sex), and bisexual (having emotional, romantic, or sexual attractions to both men and women). This range of behaviors and attractions has been described in various cultures and nations throughout the world. Many cultures use identity labels to describe people who express these attractions. In the United States the most frequent labels are lesbians (women attracted to women), gay men (men attracted to men), and bisexual people (men or women attracted to both sexes). However, some people may use different labels or none at all.
Sexual orientation is distinct from other components of sex and gender, including biological sex (the anatomical, physiological, and genetic characteristics associated with being male or female), gender identity (the psychological sense of being male or female),* and social gender role (the cultural norms that define feminine and masculine behavior).
Sexual orientation is commonly discussed as if it were solely a characteristic of an individual, like biological sex, gender identity, or age. This perspective is incomplete because sexual orientation is defined in terms of relationships with others. People express their sexual orientation through behaviors with others, including such simple actions as holding hands or kissing. Thus, sexual orientation is closely tied to the intimate personal relationships that meet deeply felt needs for love, attachment, and intimacy. In addition to sexual behaviors, these bonds include nonsexual physical affection between partners, shared goals and values, mutual support, and ongoing commitment. Therefore, sexual orientation is not merely a personal characteristic within an individual. Rather, ones sexual orientation defines the group of people in which one is likely to find the satisfying and fulfilling romantic relationships that are an essential component of personal identity for many people.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)that she was Norwegian.
(Bad joke from a Dane.)
vlyons
(10,252 posts)but that marriage did not work out and ended in divorce. Some people, such as Dr. Ride, are very private, and we need to respect their right to be so. Dr. Ride also did not do commercials and product endorsements. That she was inspired to encourage girls to pursue math and science careers is wonderful. I'm sorry that her female partner did not receive the benefits due to hetero surviving spouses.
TalkingDog
(9,001 posts)Thanks and welcome to DU
LeftofObama
(4,243 posts)When DOMA is overturned, and I'd be willing to bet it will be, I wonder if surviving partners/spouses would be eligible for retroactive benefits.
Sorry, I didn't mean to hijack your thread.
2ndAmForComputers
(3,527 posts)sakabatou
(42,158 posts)FreeState
(10,572 posts)Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)straight? I just think this society suffers from the most disgusting hypocrisy.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)it is a federal law. That's why we need to go after DOMA. It is the problem.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)kpete
(71,996 posts)shows mitt doesn't give a shit...
peace, kp
surrealAmerican
(11,362 posts)She was not, however, the "first woman in space". The US is not the only country to have a space program.
burrowowl
(17,641 posts)However, her partner should still get benefits.
progressoid
(49,991 posts)We don't recognize any accomplishments by them Ruskies.
markpkessinger
(8,401 posts)madrchsod
(58,162 posts)it just goes to show no matter who you are and what all the good you have done sometimes you and the person you love are still second class citizens.
mchill
(1,018 posts)no matter where they live.
1620rock
(2,218 posts)snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)FreeState
(10,572 posts)Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)You generally need more time in the barrel to qualify for federal benefits.
NASA might have a different scheme, though--I will admit I'm no expert in how they work their system.
FreeState
(10,572 posts)obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)elleng
(130,974 posts)bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)And I don't really have a bumper sticker answer for that.
I can give the 15 minute answer, but many people are not bright enough to get it.
FlaGranny
(8,361 posts)The trouble is that no will can give the surviving partner a pension - like the federal pension my mother received for years after my father passed away. She also got to keep his excellent federal health insurance. Two things Ms. Ride's partner will not be entitled to.
pokerfan
(27,677 posts)Thought this was an appropriate response...
Second memo to Mr. Romney: Fuck you.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/greta/2012/07/23/mitt-romney-on-the-death-of-sally-ride
LuvNewcastle
(16,847 posts)K&R
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)MineralMan
(146,317 posts)11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)GoneOffShore
(17,340 posts)Kencorburn
(74 posts)The president has control over the policies directly affecting the federal bureaucracy. Like President Truman did when integrating the army, President Obama can issue an executive order making federal employees not subject to DOMA. He has already laid the ground work by ordering the justice department to stop defending the law. Though admittedly, I am unsure of the mechanics of DOMA's implementation.
ismnotwasm
(41,989 posts)This is a story that needs to be told everywhere, from grammar school history books to the NASA website.
Thank you, ProSense
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)where one works for the federal government and the other is covered by the "insurable interest" clause. Maybe Sally Ride's partner doesnt qualify.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)no exceptions