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spanone

(135,844 posts) Sat Jan 13, 2018, 09:36 AM Jan 2018

CNN exposing trumps lies about VISA lottery and chain migration

trump openly lies about how these systems work.

blatant lies from our 'president' that totally distort how our immigration folks get here.

lies, lies, lies.

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CNN exposing trumps lies about VISA lottery and chain migration (Original Post) spanone Jan 2018 OP

Come on Spanone malaise Jan 2018 #1

i will expose his lies at every opportunity.... spanone Jan 2018 #4

Please proceed brother malaise Jan 2018 #6

the thought is wearing me out. spanone Jan 2018 #7

I went looking for an article on CNN underpants Jan 2018 #2

They are talking about it on the actual television channel oberliner Jan 2018 #3

they were showing trump 'explaining' how the system works (all lies) spanone Jan 2018 #5

Trying to make "chain migration" bad is treestar Jan 2018 #8

My nephew married an Indonesian woman... Wounded Bear Jan 2018 #9

LOL Indonesia treestar Jan 2018 #10

You might want to check your facts on the diversity lottery. Ms. Toad Jan 2018 #11

malaise

(269,054 posts)

1. Come on Spanone

Reply to spanone (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 09:45 AM

Jan 2018

He lies every time he opens that shithole mouth

spanone

(135,844 posts)

4. i will expose his lies at every opportunity....

Reply to malaise (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 10:10 AM

Jan 2018

damn, I'm going to be a busy body

malaise

(269,054 posts)

6. Please proceed brother

Reply to spanone (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 10:20 AM

Jan 2018

spanone

(135,844 posts)

7. the thought is wearing me out.

Reply to malaise (Reply #6)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 10:24 AM

Jan 2018

underpants

(182,829 posts)

2. I went looking for an article on CNN

Reply to spanone (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 09:58 AM

Jan 2018

but couldn't find anything

oberliner

(58,724 posts)

3. They are talking about it on the actual television channel

Reply to underpants (Reply #2)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 10:08 AM

Jan 2018

spanone

(135,844 posts)

5. they were showing trump 'explaining' how the system works (all lies)

Reply to underpants (Reply #2)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 10:16 AM

Jan 2018

then explaining how it ACTUALLY works....it was live teevee and no link to find....i'll keep looking

trump saying for the visa lottery they put names in a bowl and pick them out....fucking lie

it's a very difficult process to go through and vets the immigrants entirely.

treestar

(82,383 posts)

8. Trying to make "chain migration" bad is

Reply to spanone (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 11:40 AM

Jan 2018

evil - it is about families - getting immigrants from the families of those already here. That stabilizes things.

The Diversity lottery was racist to begin with! It was to get more European immigrants. It lets people from low immigration countries butt in line ahead of people from high immigration countries.

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)

9. My nephew married an Indonesian woman...

Reply to treestar (Reply #8)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 12:33 PM

Jan 2018

They just had their first child. They are working to get her allowed into the country, but they are worried.

One funny thing he said to me, "There is a Trump Tower in Indonesia." That seems to be a mark in my nephew's favor.

Yeah, it's about families.

treestar

(82,383 posts)

10. LOL Indonesia

Reply to Wounded Bear (Reply #9)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:50 PM

Jan 2018

would be on Donald's good list. Hopefully they get processed quickly.

Ms. Toad

(34,075 posts)

11. You might want to check your facts on the diversity lottery.

Reply to treestar (Reply #8)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 07:27 PM

Jan 2018

You are correct that it permits people from low immigration countries to get "in line" ahead of those from high immigration countries. But some of the high immigration countries that are skipped over are European countries - initially the UK and its dependent territories. Canada isn't in Europe - but it is largely white, and has always been ineligible.

The eligible countries the first year were:
Bangladesh (Asia), Brazil (Latin America), Columbia (Latin America), Ecuador (Latin America), Guatemala (Latin America), Haiti (Latin American), Nigeria (Africa), Pakistan (Asia), Peru (Latin America), Poland (Europe), and Russia (Europe/Asia).

There are only 1.5 European countries on that list,out of 11.

Currently the eligible countries are Ecuador (Latin America), Guatemala (Latin America), Poland (Europoean), Russia (Europe/Asia), and Taiwan (Asia) - 1.5 European countries.

There are disproportionately more Europeans selected, but that is because there are disproportionately more European applicants (typically 20-30% of the applicants)

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