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I'm sure there are many other projects just like that.

really or metaphorically but:

https://www.snopes.com/horrors/freakish/hoover.asp

I guess that I should go back and look at old things that were such certainty stories for decades. I hate fake news. Thanks

And how many children and grandchildren of such immigrants (who were treated so poorly) have become so successful.

In theory, that's part of what makes this country great.

America is unique in that way. It is those circumstances and difficulties that have created the character of our country. It is primarily that struggle that unites us as a people.

On both sides of the aisle.

Though now the capitalists have the whole world and the cheap labor in the underdeveloped countries. And the robots.

The immigrants are not needed as they were before.

Would prosecute the people who hire them but it will never happen. The state of Texas
employs thousands who work in construction and state road projects.
All the workers have to do is supply a drivers license and SS # and you can get both at the local flea markets.
I used to keep books for a local millionaire who used illegals in his Big commercial landscaping business and he always looked th other way when they showed up looking for work.

This was decades ago but it still happens.
Most of the state roads (and most construction/building jobs) are built by illegals who work arduously out in the hot sun with very little job security. Pitiful, really. The biggest donors to our Gov. Abbott are in construction.

We tried to crack down on employers a couple of times but there was a backlash from the business community and we gave up. In one state (I forget which one) that had a big meat packing industry, the state decided to crack down. The slaughterhouses simply moved to the state next door which was ruinous for the state trying to enforce the law. It has to be done at the national level.

time after time. I guarantee that if the owners would have been prosecuted, it would have ended.
#1 he could abuse them by withholding pay (backcharge him for blah, blah...) and obviously paying lower wages.
#2 he used them as "sub-labor" so held no responsibility to actuallycheck their status, or provide any benifits, all the while growing their bank account.

Undocumented workers also built the homes we live in.

Hiring an illegal immigrant, first offense: $100,000 fine per hire, plus a written warning.

Hiring an illegal immigrant, second offense: $1M fine per hire, then immediate revocation of citizenship followed by deportation

It's broadly similar to how prostitutes face heavy legal penalties, but their customers often escape with minimal repercussion.

Apply the punishment to the one committing the greater crime, and watch the results.

the rich like the cheap labor and use it also to keep overall wages down, but the rove white house used talk radio to use immigrants for the voter suppression legislation and dems ignore talk radio so the republicans just kept going.

dems are deluded thinking anything good can be done with republicans on this issue as long as limbaugh and sons are still deciding what's acceptable or not - the minutemen, the wall, the voter id laws - all products of a a few hundred shitholes on the radio working for billionaire think tanks selling voter suppression and voter fraud fraud and lower wages

all because the left keeps ignoring talk radio

It isn't just racial, although that is how the current situation is playing out. Look at how many current Hispanic residents view our country's moves on immigration. It is not as evenly angry as we might expect.

IAE, we have a chance here to work to improve how we treat people and it shouldn't be wasted.

...is that greedy capitalists created the conditions in other countries that caused people to want to leave their homes in search of a better life.

The U.S. Role in Turning Countries Into 'Shitholes'
by Dr. Juan Cole

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/u-s-role-turning-countries-shitholes/

it's not even logical at this point. the only benefit is to the egos of racists, who think they have struck some kind of blow for racial purity.

these things don't just happen..

People moving up the ladder tend to kick those on the lower rungs.

Wasn't it obvious in history class?

comes from my beloved Portland, Oregon.

When we lived there in the early 80s, we visited Pittock Mansion, on a bluff overlooking Portland and the Willamette River. Beautiful.

And the mansion is gorgeous too. It has a lot of beautiful woodwork, which we were told was painted and sanded a number of times in the process of building the place.

Sanded? Not what you might think: it was done by Chinese workers isomg pumice with their bare hands.

Mind boggling.

slaves - from Africa stolen from their homelands and treated worse than animals.

If everyone gets a voter, their interests do not dominate, and they have to pay the help more. Things like minimum wages will be fair and people will have health care and retirement security. That's the truth that is being ignored, political power versus democracy.

Australia: $13.5
France: $11
Ireland: $10.4
UK: $10.1
Netherlands: $10.1
Germany: $9.9

Immigrants become citizen and register as Democrats and vote democratic.

That's a prevailing fear among Republicans.

Could be expanded into a Facebook screed, a book, a movie, a mini series, or a Ken Freaking Burns documentary!

Please, folks...Spread. This. Far. And. Wide!

March On, Democrats!

who had no social status could come here and have a built in system where they could exploit slave labor or benefit from the third class situation of black people in the US.