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Stinky The Clown

(67,808 posts)
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 12:50 PM Jan 2018

A pool of celebrities from which a good candidate might be drawn?

#NoOprah needs to be thing. I'd apply that hashtag to any other civilian who wants to go from private citizen to President. Not just No, but HELL NO. If you want to be president, learn the ropes first. Senate, House, state government. Run for something else first. Win a seat. Serve therm out. Then talk to us.

But there is one pool of "celebrities" for whom I could maybe, just possibly, consider an exception and that is a long time political reporter who reports on the federal government. While never having served, they probably understand as well as anyone how things works and how to get things done.

I have no one in mind, but am just musing . . . . .

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A pool of celebrities from which a good candidate might be drawn? (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Jan 2018 OP
at least give us initials... hlthe2b Jan 2018 #1
Anybody who wants to be president had better get some actual experience The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #2
Gavin Newsom. Seriously! -nt Anon-C Jan 2018 #3
What's so good about him ? OnDoutside Jan 2018 #5
But most important for 2020, the candidate has to be able to win a national Sophia4 Jan 2018 #4
In terms of resume for modern candidate, the two top, in my view, are HRC and GHWB Stinky The Clown Jan 2018 #6
But in terms of electability, we need a candidate who can reach out and heal Sophia4 Jan 2018 #7
Obama is also a political/social genius. He downplays that part of himself. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #8
Bono. Except he's Irish. Tom Rinaldo Jan 2018 #9
None!!!!!! No more celebrities!!! Initech Jan 2018 #10
No more celebrities crazycatlady Jan 2018 #11

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)
2. Anybody who wants to be president had better get some actual experience
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 12:58 PM
Jan 2018

in government. They can run for some state or local office, or for Congress, or whatever. I don't care how knowledgeable they are as a result of their work in the media; they need to have been on the inside for awhile. Lawrence O'Donnell (if he were so inclined) might qualify although he's never held elected office, because he was an aide to Senator Moynihan and staff director for the Senate Finance Committee before he got into show biz as the lead writer for The West Wing. I can't think of anyone else, though.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
4. But most important for 2020, the candidate has to be able to win a national
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 01:25 PM
Jan 2018

election.

That's the first priority. The candidate has to be able to draw and hold the attention of voters, of a crowd.

The vice president can handle dealing with Congress, etc.

I remember when I thought that Obama was too inexperienced but voted for him anyway because I liked him. He chose Biden who is very experienced in Congress as his vice president and then learned the ropes very quickly.

So experience is important, but not the decisive factor.

Obama had experience in the Illinois political scene, but not really in D.C. He was in the Senate only a short time before becoming president.

Of our past presidents, maybe LBJ had the most experience in D.C. At least he had a lot of experience. Yet he made a lot of mistakes as president. Did amazing, wonderful things too. The Civil Rights bill got passed partly because of his political experience. Then there is Medicare. LBJ -- experience, yet mistakes mixed with amazing accomplishments.

Experience does not guarantee a good presidency.
It helps. But personality is very, very important.

A true leader is a rare person. FDR was a true leader. And he became president at a time when we needed him. We need a true leader now, one who will be loved by the American people and the world.

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
7. But in terms of electability, we need a candidate who can reach out and heal
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 01:41 PM
Jan 2018

the rift in the Democratic Party much better than HRC did. Bill Clinton was good at bringing in all Democrats. But somehow, HRC was not able to do that. I don't know whether it was the sexism, but even if it was, the right candidate has to be able to overcome any negative aspects of his or her candidacy.

I don't have a specific person in mind, but we Democrats tend to overemphasize competency and underemphasize personality. But as we saw with Trump (and
I can't stand his personality myself), the candidate with the big personality won. We need to remember that.

Personality is very, very important. Obama had it. His was unique, but it won over all kinds of problems. Obama was able to win in spite of racism, in spite of his comparative lack of experience, in spite of a lot of drawbacks. He won because he has a great personality and is a very loving person. We need to keep that in mind.

Irish_Dem

(47,131 posts)
8. Obama is also a political/social genius. He downplays that part of himself.
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 02:17 PM
Jan 2018

He is always way ahead of every one else, but takes care to meet others where they are.
A difficult task he pulls off with ease.
In addition to being a decent human being and knowing what it means to be a public servant.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
9. Bono. Except he's Irish.
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 02:24 PM
Jan 2018

He otherwise is that rare exception. He is a true global citizen who has taken significant initiatives on important issues and he has held his own with numerous world leaders over decades.

Seriously, unless a celebrity has a long track record of deep and significant involvement in important issues beyond just lending their name to a cause, i simply am not interested in considering one for President. For the Senate or a Governorship, maybe, but they would have to be damn impressive as well as famous.

Initech

(100,081 posts)
10. None!!!!!! No more celebrities!!!
Sat Jan 13, 2018, 02:27 PM
Jan 2018

This administration has been an utter shit show! The last thing we need is more inexperienced and unqualified celebrities in power!

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