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k8conant

(3,030 posts) Sat Jan 13, 2018, 12:55 PM Jan 2018

Time's up, says Thomas Jefferson...

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

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Time's up, says Thomas Jefferson... (Original Post) k8conant Jan 2018 OP

One of the most important documents ever written. I keep thinking about it too. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #1

ALL men... Cracklin Charlie Jan 2018 #2

Indeed. k8conant Jan 2018 #3

Thomas Jefferson was a genius and a gifted writer, as well as inventor. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #4

Yes, a Jefferson of today would be a democratic socialist. roamer65 Jan 2018 #5

Also like a certain current day popular politician. :) Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #6

I believe that, too. Cracklin Charlie Jan 2018 #7

Yes indeed, it transformed the United States, but no one realized it at the time. Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #9

Worthy read. kentuck Jan 2018 #8

Irish_Dem

(47,131 posts)

1. One of the most important documents ever written. I keep thinking about it too.

Reply to k8conant (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 01:00 PM

Jan 2018

At some point, Americans need to make a declaration of independence from their corrupt government.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)

2. ALL men...

Reply to k8conant (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 01:01 PM

Jan 2018

And women.

k8conant

(3,030 posts)

3. Indeed.

Reply to Cracklin Charlie (Reply #2)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 01:01 PM

Jan 2018

Irish_Dem

(47,131 posts)

4. Thomas Jefferson was a genius and a gifted writer, as well as inventor.

Reply to Cracklin Charlie (Reply #2)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 01:47 PM

Jan 2018

He spoke 7 languages and was highly educated.
Jefferson is considered to be the most intelligent US president.
He was ahead of his time in many ways and a true renaissance man.

The Declaration of Independence, along with the Magna Carta,
are two of the most important documents ever written.

But Jefferson was a product of his time, in terms of women and race.

I believe if he had been born today, he would write the Declaration to include
all human beings.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)

5. Yes, a Jefferson of today would be a democratic socialist.

Reply to Irish_Dem (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:00 PM

Jan 2018

Jesus would be also, as he was 2000 years ago.

Irish_Dem

(47,131 posts)

6. Also like a certain current day popular politician. :)

Reply to roamer65 (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:06 PM

Jan 2018

If there is an afterlife, Thomas Jefferson is one of the people I want to meet.
The Declaration of Independence is a sacred, magical document.
I want to meet the man who wrote it.

And of course, I would love to have dinner with Obama, Hillary and Bernie
in the here and now.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)

7. I believe that, too.

Reply to Irish_Dem (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 04:03 PM

Jan 2018

Could I add the Louisiana Purchase to your list of Jefferson’s many accomplishments?

It was a move of great foresight and wisdom, that transformed our nation.

Irish_Dem

(47,131 posts)

9. Yes indeed, it transformed the United States, but no one realized it at the time.

Reply to Cracklin Charlie (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 04:49 PM

Jan 2018

And Jefferson was criticized for it.

kentuck

(111,102 posts)

8. Worthy read.

Reply to k8conant (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 04:16 PM

Jan 2018

and timely.

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