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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGood God. Weve gone full Strangelove.
The fact that we can easily imagine a madman launching an attack that could result in another madman annihilating is either going to wake somebody up or were just going to learn to live with terror.
Poor people. Can yall imagine huddling in fear?
We need help.
Where IS that madman anyway? Has anyone gone out to the course and told him?
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)involved, but that sure seems like it was close. I wonder if we'll get the "real" story on why an alert went out like that.
Ms. Toad
(34,075 posts)Just like someone back in 1971, at the time for the regularly scheduled test, loaded the wrong tape into the transmitter, and a real alert - rather than the test one - went out.
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)C_U_L8R
(45,003 posts)Love to all our Hawaii friends.
nolabear
(41,987 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,131 posts)Trump and the GOP have done this to us.
nolabear
(41,987 posts)The possibility is all too real. And I dont tend toward hysteria typically.
Irish_Dem
(47,131 posts)withoutapaddle
(263 posts)It's continuous and we're being terrorized by our own fking "president".
Irish_Dem
(47,131 posts)everything is an accident waiting to happen.
withoutapaddle
(263 posts)Trump is a product of mass racism, paranoia, hate, bigotry, (essentially every single divisive emotion and thought that exists).
He is the "brand" for hatemongers. What truly makes him more scary is he really is unhinged. I try not to label people as crazy, but this man is an unstable evil.
Irish_Dem
(47,131 posts)His minders all know he is crazy and ignorant, so they lie to him to keep him calm.
They also park him in front of the TV which he enjoys, and let him tweet to blow off steam.
Somebody else is minding the store.
murielm99
(30,745 posts)It is from one of my favorite poems.
How dreary to be somebody!
How public, like a frog
To tell your name the livelong day
To an admiring bog!
Emily Dickinson.
I used to work at the public library here. Many of our strutting, preening small town library board members reminded me of that poem on a daily basis. Not everyone who goes into public service does so because they want to serve others.
The poem also fits trump to a "T."
withoutapaddle
(263 posts)Hope is the thing with feathers and experience are among my other favorites.
Our libraries are our lifelines to information. Thank you!
Irish_Dem
(47,131 posts)I think you must mean another post unless Jefferson wrote the King a poem too.
murielm99
(30,745 posts)I was replying to withoutapaddle.
I feel somewhat reassured by your post about the book. I truly hope someone else is minding the store, someone a bit less crazy.
Irish_Dem
(47,131 posts)I have a great deal of education and experience assessing danger levels
in the mentally ill population. And I was reassured after reading excerpts
in the Wolff book. His staff is managing him to prevent things spinning too much out
of control. The military and congress also know the problems. Even Trump's own
attorneys lie to him to keep him calm.
For example, I suspect that Trump canceling his trip to London was due to manipulation
by his staff. He wanted to go I am sure, he loves pomp and pageantry like only the British
can do. But I think his staff knew it might be dangerous with the protests and would be an
obvious trip of humiliation. So they came up with ridiculous reasons why he could
not go and Trump bought the embassy one. There is no way Trump was smart enough
to have done research on the embassy being moved, etc. Someone had to present
that story to him.
It is possible that Kelly and Pence are running the show.
Of course all of this is speculation, and reading between the lines.
Edited to add: And at times he appears to be medicated, he slurs his speech, and
comes across with a flat affect and is docile, out of character for him.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Herr Shithole is by now just a tool.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,107 posts)UTUSN
(70,711 posts)orangecrush
(19,572 posts)Mystery solved!
"Hawaii residents woke up to a text message warning of an imminent missile attack on Saturday, though authorities quickly said there was no such threat. Ballistic missile threat inbound to Hawaii. Seek shelter immediately. This is not a drill, the warning read. The Hawaii Emergency Management Agency tweeted out a statement saying there is no missile threat to the area after news of the alerts had flooded Twitter. Hawaii Gov. David Ige later said the warning and subsequent panic were caused by an employee pressing the wrong button during a shift change."
https://www.thedailybeast.com/fake-missile-alert-sent-out-to-hawaii-residents
This is very, very bad.
Now in the event of an actual attack, warnings might be ignored.
riversedge
(70,242 posts)dhol82
(9,353 posts)Just inadvertently push the wrong button.
What, he tripped and landed on THE button?
Some of the guys were fake fighting and fell on THE button?
This is ridiculous. How can such an important piece of the first call protection system be so easy to fuck up?
orangecrush
(19,572 posts)I am quite sure are going to be brought up.
dhol82
(9,353 posts)orangecrush
(19,572 posts)(Community Emergency Response Team) and met some Emergency Management folks.
They take their jobs extremely seriously, you can bet there will be hell to pay for this.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)during what was supposed to be a test alert.
You'd think a real announcement would require entering a password or at least pressing a second button.
orangecrush
(19,572 posts)Different Drummer
(7,621 posts)orangecrush
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dhol82
(9,353 posts)bluestarone
(16,976 posts)FAIL SAFE Watch it it's a scary one for sure!!!!!! http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058083/
orangecrush
(19,572 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)Fail-Safe had a great role for Larry Hagman, as the Translator, Walter Matthau, as the Pentagon advisor hawk, and Dan O'Herlihy, absolutely chilling as the always ethical General Black. The latter deserved a supporting actor award. A great film, regretfully overshadowed by Dr. Strangelove, my favorite film of all time.
Then, there's this one.
(I know. Horrible trailer.)
Way underrated flick. Gregory Peck turns in his usual good performance. Ava Gardner is stunning. And Fred Astaire is surprising in his first dramatic role. I hope that one likes Waltzing Matilda. However, it's never been done like this before:
Plus, John Meillon (of Crocodile Dundee fame) has a role, too. He's the sailor dropped off in his home town SanFran by his choice to die. (I know, not the most positive film narrative. It's Stanley Kramer, after all.)
orangecrush
(19,572 posts)Thanks for posting them!
bluestarone
(16,976 posts)second one looks good also TKS
nolabear
(41,987 posts)Ive said before I spent several early years on a SAC base during the Cuban Missile Crisis and those alerts scared us families. I had nightmares for a long time about telephones making horrifying siren sounds. I was an adult before I realized they represented the alert sirens and the subsequent phone call to let us know our fathers had just flown off in a drill, not a real attack.
orangecrush
(19,572 posts)glad it never came to the real thing.
Orange Free State
(611 posts)orangecrush
(19,572 posts)What was the source?
longship
(40,416 posts)I read both books in my youth.
Fail-Safe was written by Eugene Burdick and Harvey Wheeler.
Red Alert by Peter George was the inspiration for Dr. Strangelove.
There is some inevitable confusion about this as Peter George and Stanley Kubrick successfully sued to get the Fail-Safe release delayed due to their similar narratives. But there is no doubt of their origins.
There you have it.
Orange Free State
(611 posts)The author of Red Alert settled out of court, so there was enough similarity in the two books, but they were not the same book. My bad.
longship
(40,416 posts)And the author of Red Alert and Kubrick won the suit, settled out of court, but they managed to delay the release of Fail-Safe by months. It therefore failed at the box office, although it was every bit a very good film.
nolabear
(41,987 posts)griloco
(832 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)And with original film.
Stupid thing is cut off.
Here's the rest of it:
Sometimes YouTubers are just plain stupid.
Oh well!
randr
(12,412 posts)celebrated their big tough guy making America Great
Hamlette
(15,412 posts)Have you noticed he doesn't ever fire his people himself? That was his signature move from TV but he has someone else do it or does it on paper.
He is the cowardly lion. Only not as cute.
Initech
(100,081 posts)PasadenaTrudy
(3,998 posts)lives on the Big Island. She got the alert, figured it was a hoax, rolled over and went back to sleep