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Historian finds German decree banishing Trump's grandfather
Royal decree ordered Friedrich Trump to leave Bavaria and never come back after he failed to do military service
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Friedrich Trump emigrated to the US from Germany in 1885. Photograph: Wikipedia
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A historian has discovered a royal decree issued to Donald Trumps grandfather ordering him to leave Germany and never come back.
Friedrich Trump, a German, was issued with the document in February 1905, and ordered to leave the kingdom of Bavaria within eight weeks as punishment for having failed to do mandatory military service and failing to give authorities notice of his departure to the US when he first emigrated in 1885.
Kallstadt, Germany: on the trail of 'the Donald' in the Trump ancestral home
Roland Paul, a historian from Rhineland-Palatinate who found the document in local archives, told the tabloid Bild: Friedrich Trump emigrated from Germany to the USA in 1885. However, he failed to de-register from his homeland and had not carried out his military service, which is why the authorities rejected his attempt at repatriation.
The decree orders the American citizen and pensioner Friedrich Trump to leave the area at the very latest on 1 May ... or else expect to be deported. Bild called the archive find an unspectacular piece of paper, that had nevertheless changed world history.
Trump was born in Kallstadt, now in the state of Rhineland-Palatinate, in 1869. He emigrated to the US aged 16 initially to escape poverty, attracted by the gold rush....................
..................Residents of Kallstadt, a small wine-growing town of about 1,200 people in south-west Germany, joke that the blame for Trump becoming US president-elect lies with the German authorities who threw his grandfather out. They have so far shown little enthusiasm for claiming the businessman turned politician as their own..............
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malaise
(269,022 posts)last year...my bad...add in 2016
UTUSN
(70,700 posts)What's been a puzzle all these years is what's his beef with immigrants, viz:
1) Grandfather, mother, 2 of 3 wives all immigrants
2) Hires/exploits immigrants without paying
tclambert
(11,087 posts)I wonder if little Donnie got his wrist slapped by a brown-skinned housekeeper when he behaved badly as a child.
malaise
(269,022 posts)Think about the visas for family investments
eleny
(46,166 posts)Probably during the primaries.
tblue37
(65,386 posts)others in the family.
Stardust1
(123 posts)MiniMe
(21,716 posts)Must run in the family. Shouldn't his name have been spelled Drump at that time? Thought he didn't change it until he got to this country
doc03
(35,340 posts)Germany in 1905. He had already left 20 years earlier. Doesn't make much sense to me.
Old Terp
(464 posts)She wanted to stay in Germany. The question is why we let him back in the US. His earlier US activities were not exactly honorable--lots of bawdy houses. I doubt he told the truth about being kicked out when he had to come back to US. Had he done so, we might not have let him in.
doc03
(35,340 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)And when I say "running" I mean "hobbling along because of bone spurs".
lastlib
(23,239 posts)More's the pity..........
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)nolabels
(13,133 posts)I would like to think we will survive and be stronger for it (or at least a little smarter)
BigmanPigman
(51,604 posts)and discovered all kinds of goodies. Draft dodger, conn man, etc.
Sam McGee
(347 posts)I thought Trump's name originally was Drumpf and his father changed it to Trump during WW II. Or is that an urban legend?
Here's the Snopes article -- not exactly clear.
https://www.snopes.com/donald-drumpf/
This is from Wikipedia:
Frederick Trump (born Friedrich Trump; March 14, 1869 May 30, 1918) was a German-American businessman. Born in Kallstadt, in the Kingdom of Bavaria (now in Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany), he immigrated to the United States at the age of 16 and started working as a barber. Several years later in 1891, he moved to the Northwest. He made his fortune operating boom-town restaurants and boarding houses in Seattle and a mining town to the north, and in the Klondike Gold Rush.[1][2] He later returned to Germany and married. When authorities found that he had emigrated when young to avoid fulfilling his military service, he lost his Bavarian citizenship; he and his family returned to the United States.
He worked as a barber and hotel manager, and began to acquire real estate in Queens. He was the father of Fred and John G. Trump, and grandfather of Donald Trump, the 45th President of the United States.
FuzzyRabbit
(1,967 posts)Brothels, bordellos, cathouses, houses of prostitution, houses of ill repute, and knocking-shops (for you Britishers).
He is remembered fondly here in Seattle and north of here in the old mining town of Monte Cristo.
Trump's father probably learned contempt of women from his father Frederick, and then passed on those same attitudes to Donald.
EricMaundry
(1,619 posts)Draft dodging and pimping.
LudwigPastorius
(9,150 posts)Let me guess.
It was die bone spurs, jah?
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)blogslut
(38,001 posts)It's like the Thutmose forehead, more concave with each generation!