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Republican pundit Steve Schmidt was on fire yesterday. (Original Post) pnwmom Jan 2018 OP
Mahalo for Schmidt's Tweets, pnwmom Cha Jan 2018 #1
Holy Moley! longship Jan 2018 #2
R-E-S-P-E-C-T Stallion Jan 2018 #3
That's some good stuff...n/t Upthevibe Jan 2018 #5
Words words words NCDem777 Jan 2018 #4
I am curious if he'll be voting for Dems....n/t Upthevibe Jan 2018 #6
Of course he is. He said: pnwmom Jan 2018 #9
Exactly. "The corrupted, rotten and complicit Republican majority" Hortensis Jan 2018 #40
From what he said about Obama...*perhaps *this one time. Stellar Jan 2018 #43
He's a well known no-trumper and has been before the 2016 election. brush Jan 2018 #8
He plans to. pnwmom Jan 2018 #10
I think he voted for Hillary radical noodle Jan 2018 #11
I disagree... chillfactor Jan 2018 #24
I saw those tweets yesterday-- on fire, for sure!!! ailsagirl Jan 2018 #7
He's a great one to have on our side. nt Laffy Kat Jan 2018 #12
Sorry Steve hibbing Jan 2018 #13
I went to Philadelphia, MS in 92, looking for the memorial. Not one person I asked had any idea Gabi Hayes Jan 2018 #21
The GOP bigotry appeal The Wizard Jan 2018 #32
Yep. I just came across this JonLP24 Jan 2018 #36
Steve Schmidt is not responsible for everything thats happened with the party and then the past. Lil Missy Jan 2018 #60
I like Both Steve and Nicole Wallace a Lot, But .... DoctorJoJo Jan 2018 #14
I think at this point it is more important to concentrate on joining together to defeat Trump pnwmom Jan 2018 #20
Politics makes strange bedfellows. murielm99 Jan 2018 #30
You should read Nicolle's book on the subject. She ended up not voting for McCain because of Sarah. Hekate Jan 2018 #27
I often feel the same way, but right now they want what we want rurallib Jan 2018 #33
Our animus is not with decent people of any party. N/t Mopar151 Jan 2018 #15
Right about #3, dead wrong about #2: Gabi Hayes Jan 2018 #16
Btw, I fully support all national dems slated; Gabi Hayes Jan 2018 #17
My sentiments exactly! Plucketeer Jan 2018 #64
The enemy of my enemy MFM008 Jan 2018 #18
K & R SunSeeker Jan 2018 #19
Awesome rant, and righteous! colorado_ufo Jan 2018 #22
I love Steve Schmidt! Hamlette Jan 2018 #23
Schmidt Knows His Shit Kristofer Bry Jan 2018 #25
WOW! I've respected this man since the RNC last year; he is a patriot who loves this country... Hekate Jan 2018 #26
You're welcome, Hekate! pnwmom Jan 2018 #28
He knows it is necessary to put xxqqqzme Jan 2018 #29
Why doesnt he go all the way, like Max Boot, Uber neocon? Gabi Hayes Jan 2018 #31
Um, I think you need to reread the OP. Schmidt isn't returning to the GOP any time soon, if ever... Hekate Jan 2018 #46
". . . . I realized these were people I would enjoy as friends. . . . " Stinky The Clown Jan 2018 #37
Bravo. He is taking his fervent opposition to Trump to its logical conclusion. That is courage Tom Rinaldo Jan 2018 #34
Hope poor Steve doesn't throw a clot before this fiasco is over. Vinca Jan 2018 #35
Wow! zentrum Jan 2018 #38
For those of us at work without access to Twitter NewJeffCT Jan 2018 #39
Nobody? NewJeffCT Jan 2018 #51
BURN IT DOWN. roamer65 Jan 2018 #41
"Righteous anger" bucolic_frolic Jan 2018 #42
I can understand why he wants renewal of the Republican Party jrandom421 Jan 2018 #44
If we could just pry them away from fox-bull shit for a few moments of fresh air.... Hulk Jan 2018 #45
I don't think he's speaking to the 32%. But he might reach the sliver of Rethugs and Independents pnwmom Jan 2018 #50
Righteous anger - absolutely. calimary Jan 2018 #47
Completely agree. Thanks for expressing it so well. n/t pnwmom Jan 2018 #49
The thing is not fooled Jan 2018 #55
ICBW... DAMANgoldberg Jan 2018 #48
If the GOP ever recovers from its headlong rush to become the Idiocracy Party, Aristus Jan 2018 #52
I have appreciated Steve saying these things... LakeArenal Jan 2018 #53
Did either of them mention Mitt? I must have missed it. In fact Steve just called for voting ... Hekate Jan 2018 #54
Hope so LakeArenal Jan 2018 #56
Did you watch any of their commentary over the past year and a half? Ever read Nicolle's book... Hekate Jan 2018 #57
I absolutely have seen them both LakeArenal Jan 2018 #61
The problem with putting these guys on a pedestal LiberalLovinLug Jan 2018 #58
Yep. I like Steve, especially when his hair is on fire, but I don't trust him any Irish_Dem Jan 2018 #59
We can't get Trump impeached unless enough people like Schmidt join us. pnwmom Jan 2018 #63
Good for Him Capperdan Jan 2018 #62

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
9. Of course he is. He said:
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 02:25 AM
Jan 2018
A righteous anger is building in this country and it must be channeled in to the 2018 elections. Enough. Defeat them all


He was talking about defeating Republicans and he knows the only way to do that is to vote for Democrats.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
40. Exactly. "The corrupted, rotten and complicit Republican majority"
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 09:42 AM
Jan 2018

Many of them will be on the ballot in 2018, and he called for decent Republicans, "independents," and Democrats to throw them out.

NCDem, rejecting alliance with well meaning people on the right is not a winning move. We're in trouble specifically because partisan hostility destroyed the ability of reasonable people to work together to find common, sensible solutions.

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
43. From what he said about Obama...*perhaps *this one time.
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 11:55 AM
Jan 2018

He might just do it this once to clean house of all those congress critters in the GOP.. you never know


pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
10. He plans to.
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 02:25 AM
Jan 2018
A righteous anger is building in this country and it must be channeled in to the 2018 elections. Enough. Defeat them all

radical noodle

(8,000 posts)
11. I think he voted for Hillary
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 02:29 AM
Jan 2018

He spoke out against Trump from the very beginning and he hasn't ever minced words.

chillfactor

(7,576 posts)
24. I disagree...
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 03:46 AM
Jan 2018

Both Schmidt and Micahel Steele are really really sick of the orange one and this congress......they are both on cable news several times a day and are very vocal with their displeasure. And how does anyone know how either of them vote......unless you are a mind reader.

hibbing

(10,098 posts)
13. Sorry Steve
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 02:48 AM
Jan 2018

Your party has been appealing to racists for decades, you are smart enough and old enough to remember the circumstances of your Saint Reagan announcing his run for the presidency. I'm glad you are speaking out now, but it's not just the 30 something percent that supports the current resident of the White House.


Peace

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
21. I went to Philadelphia, MS in 92, looking for the memorial. Not one person I asked had any idea
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 03:16 AM
Jan 2018

where it was. Most didn’t, or claimed not to, know what I was talking about

Fun fact!

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
32. The GOP bigotry appeal
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 08:53 AM
Jan 2018

goes back to Goldwater in 64. Their underlying message was States rights, an allusion to slavery and Jim Crow laws being restored.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
36. Yep. I just came across this
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 09:22 AM
Jan 2018

The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right. The “best man” at this ceremony was a senator whose voting record, philosophy, and program were anathema to all the hard-won achievements of the past decade.
Senator Goldwater had neither the concern nor the comprehension necessary to grapple with this problem of poverty in the fashion that the historical moment dictated. On the urgent issue of civil rights, Senator Goldwater represented a philosophy that was morally indefensible and socially suicidal. While not himself a racist, Mr. Goldwater articulated a philosophy which gave aid and comfort to the racist. His candidacy and philosophy would serve as an umbrella under which extremists of all stripes would stand. In the light of these facts and because of my love for America, I had no alternative but to urge every Negro and white person of goodwill to vote against Mr. Goldwater and to withdraw support from any Republican candidate that did not publicly disassociate himself from Senator Goldwater and his philosophy.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thinkprogress.org/no-martin-luther-king-jr-was-not-a-republican-but-heres-what-he-had-to-say-about-them-9c29475ef37/amp/

Lil Missy

(17,865 posts)
60. Steve Schmidt is not responsible for everything thats happened with the party and then the past.
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 06:41 PM
Jan 2018

Steve Schmidt is not responsible for everything that’s happened with the party and then the past.

He seems reasonable to me, the fact that he is a Republican is not necessarily what makes someone unworthy of trust.

 

DoctorJoJo

(1,134 posts)
14. I like Both Steve and Nicole Wallace a Lot, But ....
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 03:03 AM
Jan 2018

... these are the same people that tried to foster the White Trash of Alaska upon us--remember Sarah and her quality family?

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
20. I think at this point it is more important to concentrate on joining together to defeat Trump
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 03:15 AM
Jan 2018

than to engage in looking backwards.

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
27. You should read Nicolle's book on the subject. She ended up not voting for McCain because of Sarah.
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 04:34 AM
Jan 2018

rurallib

(62,416 posts)
33. I often feel the same way, but right now they want what we want
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 09:08 AM
Jan 2018

and we need all the help we can get.

And this evil that sits in congress and the White House must not be just defeated, but repudiated beyond doubt.
But Republicans have gerrymandered and suppressed votes so much that it will take an all out effort to do that in November.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
16. Right about #3, dead wrong about #2:
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 03:10 AM
Jan 2018

The pugparty needs to go the way of the whigs; not renewal, but political dissolution

Let all the crooks, religious loons, racists, neo know-nothings, nazis, etal, split into irreconcilable factions, leaving a perpetual shithole without any national power, leaving, I hope, an opening for a party that moves the dems back to a party representing the people, instead of the corporate oligarchy to which they kneel, almost as prostrate as the KGOP

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
17. Btw, I fully support all national dems slated;
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 03:13 AM
Jan 2018

Only because, for now there is nowhere else to turn

My index finger and thumb are getting arthritis from pinching them together every four years since 72

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
64. My sentiments exactly!
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 10:19 PM
Jan 2018

IF I'm going to participate, there's only one way to vote. If I favored some fringe party, I'd just not vote. This does NOT mean I love each and every Dem I could vote for - it just means they're the only "choice(s)" I have. Not the best - not the best at all - just the least offensive of the candidates I can cast a vote for. Until we have a viable Common Sense Party, I'll just keep whacking foul balls.

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
26. WOW! I've respected this man since the RNC last year; he is a patriot who loves this country...
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 04:31 AM
Jan 2018

When Steve Schmidt and Nicolle Wallace sat there and analyzed Trump's apocalyptic evil speech, I realized these were people I would enjoy as friends, could talk to about ideas and argue the fine points of politics because we agree on the basic premise of America. He literally choked up as he talked about the Constitution and how Trumpism is a betrayal.

We need allies like this. Desperately. We cannot take this country back without such as they on our side.

Thanks, pnwmom.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
28. You're welcome, Hekate!
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 04:35 AM
Jan 2018

I love to listen to that man, too. Whenever he appears on MSNBC, he's like a shot in the arm -- of righteousness.

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
46. Um, I think you need to reread the OP. Schmidt isn't returning to the GOP any time soon, if ever...
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 02:26 PM
Jan 2018

He's a conservative, not a mindless Trumpist/alt-right/populist/racist/MAGA-head.

Stinky The Clown

(67,799 posts)
37. ". . . . I realized these were people I would enjoy as friends. . . . "
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 09:23 AM
Jan 2018

I could not agree more. Similar larger goals, differences on the way to get there. And a willingness to respectfully debate and disagree.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
34. Bravo. He is taking his fervent opposition to Trump to its logical conclusion. That is courage
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 09:17 AM
Jan 2018

He continues to grow as a human being and so does my respect for him. He was wrong in the past. He no doubt will be wrong at times in the future as well. But he knows there is a cancer in this nation and he knows it must be destroyed before it destroys us all.

Vinca

(50,273 posts)
35. Hope poor Steve doesn't throw a clot before this fiasco is over.
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 09:22 AM
Jan 2018

I also hope other sane Republicans share his thoughts.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
39. For those of us at work without access to Twitter
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 09:30 AM
Jan 2018

can somebody post what the tweets actually say?

Thanks

bucolic_frolic

(43,166 posts)
42. "Righteous anger"
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 10:55 AM
Jan 2018

About says it. Tension, disgust, anger, and loathing are palpable on Twitter. We're beyond simple fear now, this is moving past brewing distrust into raw emotional outbursts, everyone throwing shit at the wall and the kitchen sink too. An eruption is boiling.
It is only a matter of time.

jrandom421

(1,004 posts)
44. I can understand why he wants renewal of the Republican Party
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 12:39 PM
Jan 2018

and not it's destruction.

It's through honest, respectful, intellectually rigorous and vigorous debate that embraces compassion, facts and fairness, that we can come to a consensus on "forming a more perfect union."

He sees a renewed Republican party that can be a vehicle of that, and I respect him for it.


He's called on all of us as Americans to help.


"DEFEAT THEM ALL"

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
45. If we could just pry them away from fox-bull shit for a few moments of fresh air....
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 12:52 PM
Jan 2018

His 32% mostly tune in to fox-bull shit, and NOTHING ELSE. No NPR, certainly no "mainstream fake news" networks. These people are lost souls, and crying over spilt milk is a waste of time. Move on. Just get the other 80% of American voters out there to the voting booths in 2018 and 2020 and drown these ugly cysts out of office!

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
50. I don't think he's speaking to the 32%. But he might reach the sliver of Rethugs and Independents
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 03:12 PM
Jan 2018

who brought DT to within 2 points of Hillary.

calimary

(81,267 posts)
47. Righteous anger - absolutely.
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 02:48 PM
Jan 2018

I’ve been arguing with a colleague who admits to voting for trump, but strictly because of Pence. Yeah, cute excuse, I know. This person criticized me for being “SO Angry!!!” As in - “you are SO Angry, calimary!” As though that’s some forbidden and entirely unreasonable reaction that I’m evidently not allowed to have.

Well, guess what? Yeah. I’m angry, dammit. You bet yer ass I’m ANGRY! WAY Angry! Deal with it, pal. Anybody who ISN’T furiously angry about what this schmuck and his supporters and excuse-makers and trolls are doing to this country and its institutions (the same small-d-democratic institutions that have seen us through war, death, destitution, and despair in most of the past decades) is living in some Aggrieved White Fantasyland. Or America’s 51st State: the State of Denial!

Anybody who ISN’T angry about what’s happened and what this schmuck is doing to this country, our reputation, our moral leadership, AND to our standing in the world - is either asleep, in total denial, and/or actually likes and approves of what’s happening.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
55. The thing is
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 04:47 PM
Jan 2018

in talking with dump supporters, I've found that they are catastrophically ignorant of the consequences of what dump and his puppetmasters are doing.

For example, they think it's A-OK to gut Medicaid because they don't want the poor to benefit. They have no idea that's the program that would pay for grandma's nursing home. I ask them who in their family wants to be a full-time caregiver.

They think regulations kill jobs. I tell them there are more jobs in monitoring and cleaning up after corporate America than in just getting rid of all restrictions and letting the polluters dump their toxins into the environment. They literally have never thought about that before. Their minds are in a narrow, faux- and flush-constructed little box.

Those are just a couple of examples. They have been relentlessly propagandized into believing that government is bad and too big and that their tax dollars subsidize the poor etc. etc. etc. They don't understand how government works or how they benefit. They will really find out if the pukes succeed in destroying the very programs that help people.

DAMANgoldberg

(1,278 posts)
48. ICBW...
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 03:09 PM
Jan 2018

but what Steve Schmidt is describing is essentially the Eisenhower Republican Party, the modern incarnation of which is the Obama (not Clinton) wing of the party. Frankly closer to the Warren wing than the Clinton/Manchin wing.

Of course, we need everyone to defeat Trump and the current GOP. Once that is done, we can go back to debating each other on how to move forward. Until then...

Aristus

(66,377 posts)
52. If the GOP ever recovers from its headlong rush to become the Idiocracy Party,
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 03:24 PM
Jan 2018

it will be due largely to Republicans like Steve Schmidt.

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
53. I have appreciated Steve saying these things...
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 04:16 PM
Jan 2018

I think Steve is setting himself up for the rebirth of the Republican Party, which will eventually happen..

However, if he and Nicole Wallace think it can be built on the back of someone like Mitt Romney, then they are in for hard time.

Mitt may not be a racist, but he is no champion of the poor, women or minorities.

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
54. Did either of them mention Mitt? I must have missed it. In fact Steve just called for voting ...
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 04:37 PM
Jan 2018

... every single Republican out of office this year and next. He's calling for a purge.

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
56. Hope so
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 04:56 PM
Jan 2018

Steve nor Nicole said the same things during that last elections and they towed the Party line that they are still putting forth through dump. Maybe Dump is way crude and vulgar but the policies are the same.

Hekate

(90,690 posts)
57. Did you watch any of their commentary over the past year and a half? Ever read Nicolle's book...
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 05:11 PM
Jan 2018

...on managing Palin during the McCain campaign? Did you see them discuss Trump's dark apocalyptic speech at the RNC, when he got the nom? They were in tears.

Do you ever watch either of them on MSNBC? Nicolle is on as I write this.

Conservatves as such are not our enemy. "Woke" conservatives are our allies, unless we refuse to let them be.

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
61. I absolutely have seen them both
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 08:52 PM
Jan 2018

She worked for Bush. He’s a Republican pundit . They support Republicans on taxes, immigration, tax cuts.

It’s not some huge idealogical shift to find Dump to be vulgar and crude. It’s human.

Enemy is your word. I call them Republicans. You can shine them up. But the will still be Republicans.

PS: I enjoy both Nicole and Stevie on MSNBC. They are still Republicans.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
58. The problem with putting these guys on a pedestal
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 06:03 PM
Jan 2018

Him, David Frum and the like, is that while we bathe in the rapturous ecstasy of a post-Trump world, (it will happen won't it?), ANY anti-Trump "moderate" candidate, like Mitt, will come off as the most intelligent, sensible, decent choice for a lot of Americans. And these guys will back them up 100%.

Notice that Schmidt has little criticism of the tax scam bill. It's all about shooting down the low hanging fruit; the character of Trump. Which I'm sure by now a big majority agree with him.

They will turn against the Democratic candidate on a dime in 2020, if the Republicans have ANY new candidate. Especially if it's someone like Bernie coughsocialistcough Sanders. But even IF it's a moderate like Schiff, he will be painted as a tax n spend, weak on terror, and all the other false memes they love to trot out. They will go hard after the Independent vote. And for most Republicans they will come out in swarms to prove they AREN'T the deplorable shitholes people are saying they are.

Irish_Dem

(47,094 posts)
59. Yep. I like Steve, especially when his hair is on fire, but I don't trust him any
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 06:09 PM
Jan 2018

further than I can throw him.

He will 100% back the next GOP guy to come along who will take us to war
and drain the US treasury.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
63. We can't get Trump impeached unless enough people like Schmidt join us.
Mon Jan 15, 2018, 08:59 PM
Jan 2018

And the first step is for them to join us in voting the GOP Congress out of power.

Yes, they'll be back to their "old ways" once Trump is gone. But we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. If we get a chance to. If we haven't lost our democracy before then.

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