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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDavid Frum: There are a lot of stops on the train line to Bad before you get to Hitler Station.
Frum is the conservative editor of The Atlantic.
https://www.thestar.com/entertainment/books/2018/01/12/q-and-a-david-frum-on-americas-trumpocracy.html
WASHINGTONDavid Frum used to work in the White House. Now he wont even walk past it.
Frum felt sick when he spent time in the building near the end of Barack Obamas presidency. He could see the bleachers for Donald Trumps inauguration. There was a barbarian at the gates.
Some of Trumps former conservative critics have softened since he took office. Not Frum. The Toronto native, a former speechwriter for George W. Bush known for his role in creating the phrase axis of evil, has built a fan base among anti-Trump liberals for his daily denunciations of a president he regards as corrupt, cruel and, above all, dangerous.
He is so determined to keep feeling the revulsion he experienced on that day pre-inauguration, he says, that he takes a detour if his walking route is taking him too close to Trumps residence.
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Frums new book, Trumpocracy: The Corruption of the American Republic (out Tuesday from Harper), is a plea for Americans to remain as troubled as he is. He argues that Trump is doing deep damage to the countrys democracy. He excoriates the appeasers and enablers he says keep Trump afloat. And he calls for alarmed citizens to turn fear into action.
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BigmanPigman
(51,593 posts)RESIST! REMOVE! Peace.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)K&R
Cha
(297,247 posts)MFM008
(19,814 posts)After election.
Cha
(297,247 posts)major stress issues, too. Understandable.
murielm99
(30,741 posts)since the election. I have to stop this. I have put on about twenty pounds.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Mahalo!
Cha
(297,247 posts)Mahalo to you, too, smirky
Solly Mack
(90,767 posts)OKNancy
(41,832 posts)than many Democratic pundits. I'm talking about well-known pundits, not OTT twitter-stars.
Some of the most biting commentary is from Bill Krystal, Jennifer Rubin, Frum, Nicole Wallace and several others.
Oh obviously need to add Steve Schmidt.
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)They didn't see Trump coming till it was too late, and some of them had helped lay the groundwork.
JHB
(37,160 posts)...because they thought that they would be the ones drag racing on it. The foamers they used to get power were supposed to stay in their pen. They didnt think someone outside their club could win by opening the gate and letting the foam loose.
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)he played a huge role in that as a Republican and a Conservative when as such he pushed for the deregulation of literally everything which he now admits went too far and as a result, this nation is in trouble. He acknowledges that this country cannot survive with the bulk of this nation's wealth in the hands of the top 3 percent but I guess he expects that we'll have to buy his book to find out the solutions he proposes. He says that Republicans have pushed their base into a frenzy of fanaticism regarding ending abortion for good and no controls on guns, and the GOP now feels that they are at the threshhold of that finally becoming a reality and this is what he says is responsible for the entire Republican Party willing to surrender complete capitulation to Donald Trump. Even though Trump has never been a true conservative, or espoused conservative principles, the entire party is ready to put their entire party, reputation, and lifelong principles behind this man to take them all the way to the promised land.
Even though he believes that his party is headed in the wrong direction and cannot stop itself, he still remains committed to his party for the following reasons: 1) because be believes in school choice, 2) he's not a liberal, and 3) he doesn't believe that the Military should be financed through bake sales. WHAT THE FUCK???????
Well let me say that I had thought, prior to reading Frum's prelude to his new book, that he was not quite the crackpot as the rest of the party and I considered him a moderate, a Never Trumper, by current party standards. I also agree with Frum that his Republican Party is responsible for the current state of affairs we find ourselves at the threshhold of, but find his repudiation of liberalism to be pure unadulterated bullshit.
Prior to reading his prelude, and since it is only a page and a half, it's quick reading, I thought it would be an interesting read from someone who had not yet drank the purple kool-aid, and that maybe Dems might be able to recruit some of the more moderate members of the GOP (yeh, I know that's an oxymoron) to help us rescue this nation from the rabid grasps of Trumpism. But having read that prelude, I come away with nothing that gives me any hope that the fight for this nation's soul will be nothing less than a long, protracted and bloody fight as to whose America arises from the ashes. Ours or Trumps. There is too much at stake, and the GOP is dug in behind their leader Trump, and we Dems must be ready to resist. This is going to get ugly.
https://www.thestar.com/entertainment/books/2018/01/12/q-and-a-david-frum-on-americas-trumpocracy.html
Frums new book, Trumpocracy: The Corruption of the American Republic (out Tuesday from Harper), is a plea for Americans to remain as troubled as he is. He argues that Trump is doing deep damage to the countrys democracy. He excoriates the appeasers and enablers he says keep Trump afloat. And he calls for alarmed citizens to turn fear into action.
malaise
(269,004 posts)He helped create this mess
This is what he said about that:
I hate to tell you this but we NEED conservative voices and thought leaders if we're to save our democracy.
Not only that, I was greatly moved by John Lewis on The View this morning. He told some of the things that happened, and was asked about anger and hate. He told us that MLK, Jr. taught them never to anger, never to hate, that they were to lay down the burden of hate. And non-forgiveness.
And it IS a burden. It's a terrible burden. Non-forgiveness too. I know: I've been carrying around a goodly amount of hate and non-forgiveness myself, so when I look I can see how debilitating it can be. I intend to do more to rid myself of them. Because I know this also to be true: "Hating someone is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die."
Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)Is as big a flaming disaster is every other idiotic idea these lunatics come up with.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)But doggone it, he's just too dedicated to school choice and outsized military budgets to quit the Republicans. I've heard some lame excuses in my time, but that one? Just wow.
Iggo
(47,554 posts)"He's going to get us caught."
Fuck you, Frum. You're in this up to your fucking neck.
Fuck. You.
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)He's not worried about getting caught. He wants to stop them.
Martin Eden
(12,869 posts)It's good that voices from the right are denouncing Trump, but Frum and others who helped perpetrate the fraudulent war in Iraq will never be able to redeem the damage and human carnage they inflicted.
There never was an "axis" between Iraq, Iran, and North Korea. The phrase served the purpose of demonizing and dehumanizing entire nations pursuant to a war which has killed upwards of a million or more civilians so far.