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Last edited Mon Jan 15, 2018, 07:13 PM - Edit history (1)
Sabra Ayres
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov sharply criticized the United States for being a destabilizing force in the world, saying Washington was provoking North Korea into a military confrontation and attempting to derail the Iran nuclear agreement.
Despite the Kremlins attempts to rebuild bilateral relations with Washington, the United States continues to push an anti-Russia agenda aimed at undermining Moscows emergence as a global power in a multipolar world, the foreign minister said during his annual press conference.
Lavrov addressed a broad list of topics during the two-hour-long conference, including relations with China, Europe and the crisis on the Korean peninsula. With nearly every topic, his answers inevitably returned to what has become a familiar theme from the Kremlin: Washingtons aggressive attempts to push its agenda globally are failing and, in the case of North Korea and Iran, have become potentially dangerous.
"Unfortunately, our American colleagues still want to operate only on the basis of dictating policy, issuing ultimatums, they do not want to hear the perspectives of other centers of world politics," Lavrov said.
https://news.google.com/news/amp?caurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.latimes.com%2Fworld%2Fla-fg-russia-lavrov-20180115-story.html#pt0-24285
It's official.
Russia calls for our surrender.
Voltaire2
(13,042 posts)policy of pursuing global military hegemony. I think those are both good ideas, even if they are being spoken by somebody in the Russian government.
malaise
(269,022 posts)orangecrush
(19,569 posts)What do they call covertly supporting extreme right wing politics in Europe and Donald Trump in the U.S., for the purpose of destabilizing?
Voltaire2
(13,042 posts)However that does not make the criticism false.
orangecrush
(19,569 posts)but coming from Russia, it sounds like criticism of Trump from repubs who still support his policies.
Their only true concern is distancing themselves from Trump's toxicity to moderate voters, while still benefiting from his rubber stamp.
Russia has serious balls to point a finger at us for destabilising after throwing a monkey wrench in our election, and bringing so many worldwide so much misery.
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)orangecrush
(19,569 posts)we are going to put his balls in an uproar!
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)orangecrush
(19,569 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)well suffice it to say, i shouldnt have to read it here
orangecrush
(19,569 posts)It is a measure of how effective Russian influence ops are.
I was once a believer in Wikileaks, and a couple other Putin deceptions.
Trump was the cold slap in the face that woke me up.
Voltaire2
(13,042 posts)Nobody here, for example me, is claiming that Russia is not a problem. Russia misbehaves. So do we. We are currently blowing people up on just about every continent. The scale of our military operations dwarfs anything anyone else is doing.
It seems we have just erased from memory the long and sorry history of our post ww-2 military misadventures, big and small, including both vietnam and iraq, and are now, in the Trump era, viewing everything through some neo-coldwar "ruskies vs usa" faux patriotic prism. Much as we did in the late 70s, we've once again forgotten the lessons learned from colossal failures like Iraq and have moved on to simplistic nationalistic posturing.
Hekate
(90,706 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)I want them gone. Disappeared like the non-entities they are.
orangecrush
(19,569 posts)and gave us Donald Trump with their right hand.
They have destabilised and subverted very effectively.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)The chutzpah of his remarks is vomit worthy. Everyone in the entire world knows they fucked with elections (not just ours), so this is just salt in the wound.
BTW: Wasn't it Lavrovatory and the gleeful fat man Kislyuck who met with the orange menace in the oval office where only RT reporters were allowed?
orangecrush
(19,569 posts)Yes, I believe it was!
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Edit: Remember that is was soon after this that the Russians demanded their spy houses returned to them?
orangecrush
(19,569 posts)intelligence services were having a serious WTF moment.
malaise
(269,022 posts)any global power.
For the record the US and Russia are not the only sovereign states on our planet. Most of the word hates the idea of one superpower.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)His royal orange flatulence wanted to show off his nukes before he was even elected, and he continues to taunt Kim. He has no clue that power can (and should) mean something other than how many nukes a country has. I mean, whatever "power" we had is being ceded to other nations through his own stupidity. But as long as he has a button...
Do you think he would understand economic power if he were shown colorful diagrams of the GDPs of several countries? Or maybe growth in technology? Or would he shake his head and shout "COAL"?
malaise
(269,022 posts)Con
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)I think we are done, I think I know who is to blame also
orangecrush
(19,569 posts)Time to wake up.
David__77
(23,418 posts)I hope our leaders wont be motivated by hatred of other countries.
Reagan joked about banning Russia with bombs. I think things would have gone better had Mondale won in 1984.
Irish_Dem
(47,114 posts)We are just too screwed up as a country.
orangecrush
(19,569 posts)sold us out to Putin.
Irish_Dem
(47,114 posts)There is a long list.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,343 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,114 posts)Together they have a big chunk of the world's population.
China has also been cultivating Africa for some time now.
orangecrush
(19,569 posts)And we are struggling to remain relevant.
Trump may have killed that possibility.
How convenient.
Irish_Dem
(47,114 posts)The GOP really set us up to fail.
But they are rich and don't care.
orangecrush
(19,569 posts)are going to suffer tremendously.
Irish_Dem
(47,114 posts)Housing values and investment accounts.
The Iraqi War cost trillions of dollars.
Education and health care are way too expensive.
And it will continue.
orangecrush
(19,569 posts)the GOP m.o.
Irish_Dem
(47,114 posts)And then blame the Dems while they dump the mess on a Dem president to fix.
Once the piggy bank is full the GOP loots and scoots again.
orangecrush
(19,569 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,114 posts)So frustrating.
bdamomma
(63,868 posts)They are not to aware of what's happening. Makes me shake my head
Irish_Dem
(47,114 posts)They live in their own reality.
Yes a form of insanity.
cemaphonic
(4,138 posts)India and Pakistan loathe each other, and China has a number of longstanding disputes with both India and Russia.
orangecrush
(19,569 posts)from partner to enemy, iirc.
Irish_Dem
(47,114 posts)onecaliberal
(32,861 posts)orangecrush
(19,569 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,114 posts)Corrupt leadership.
Leadership unable to govern.
Non secured voting system.
Apathetic citizens prone to believing propaganda.
GOP drive to create division, anger, hatred.
Racism.
Lower standard of living compared to other industrialized countries.
(Lack of health care, education)
Poverty.
I could go on, but you get the drift.
Putin did it because it was so easy.
orangecrush
(19,569 posts)and now they stand to profit from it.
onecaliberal
(32,861 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,114 posts)They deliberately weakened America for their own profit, money and power.
They could care less what happens to the country.
VOX
(22,976 posts)Meanwhile, theyre busy snuggling up to Putin and the oligarchs.
orangecrush
(19,569 posts)VOX
(22,976 posts)Theyve sold us ALL out. Its insane.
orangecrush
(19,569 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Not Team (((SOROS))).
Catch my drift?
orangecrush
(19,569 posts)the Soros bogeyman.
VOX
(22,976 posts)Joining forces with the Lie-beral MSM, they have led the deep state to...to do... to do whatever it is that they do.
Even though the far-right now owns the entire Republican Party, and controls all three branches of the fed. govt., and has a 24/7 dedicated state newsoutlet, and has thrown out regulations that kept things in check, sold public lands, stole a SCOTUS seat, are hostile to the free press, and are hand-in-glove with Russian oligarchs...
Its the Deep State thats killing America! Soros! Obama! Hillary! The Clinton Foundation! The country is a mere whisper away from suffering a leftist takeover! Dont any good Americans remember Jade Helm, when Obama invaded Texas? Or the Bowling Green Massacre?
orangecrush
(19,569 posts)VOX
(22,976 posts)We knew we had a full-blown massacre on our hands. Gutterballs so thick people started scoring them as strikes. The front desk gave up spraying...the...shoes...
I cant talk about it, I mustnt talk about it...I was *told* to not talk about...
For some, the memories never cease.
VOX
(22,976 posts)If at all possible.
bullimiami
(13,095 posts)And of course their orange pied piper.
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)we had every tool in the world, access to information, press, etc. but you just cant heal stupid. US has lost its standing in the world after it launched the war in Iraq which Gemrany, France and Russia strongly opposed. This was the beginning of the end of US global respect and dominance. We regained some of it back when Obama came to power but it only lasted until his senseess Bush like decision - Lybia. As much as we can all hate putin, he is the smart one here playing a long game. Its evil genius against stable genius. We all agree that it was illiegal for Russia to invade Ukraine but US should have stayed silent on this - because they violated the wolrd order under Bush W. and no longer had standing. In this respect, Russias claim to Crimea seemed more valid than US claim to Iraq which it doesnt even share border with.
With this in mind, I think that it would be nice for a change for our country to implement a non-intervention Switzerland like global policy.
Would we have been better off if we had never invaded Vietman, Korea, Iraq, Lybia, etc.?
Hekate
(90,706 posts)...democracies and alliances. Putin supported Brexit to hurt the EU. Now there is one less nation in that powerful alliance, and Britain must negotiate terms alone. He supported Calexit, too -- maybe as a joke, maybe not. But just imagine how much fun he'll have if my fellow Californians actually put this measure on the ballot this year.
Putin supported Trump, and it sure as hell isn't because he wants the US to be powerful and have a lot of allies.
Me.
(35,454 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)Fuck the Chinese, too. Bunch of god damned kleptocrats.