instead of being sullen and rude to customers all day.

My favorite kind.

very poorly.

and try to be nice and please refresh your knowledge of the TOS.

If you have a problem with moderation please take it up with them. This isn't the place to do so. Considering how quick you went to the TOS I would think you would know that. I wasn't making an assumption. Your words are crystal clear.

but evidently not very clear to you, because you're seeing conservative boogeymen where one doesn't exist. Stinks of paranoia to me.

And I read the TOS when I agreed and accepted to its terms.

And you are making an assumption with no basis in fact. You know fuck all about me.



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You seem passionate about the TOS. That is good. Please take your issues up with moderators or admins. You seem well enough versed that you should know that.

I wish you the best going forward and hope you keep reading DU. It's a great place and can win hearts and minds.

"And I read the TOS when I agreed and accepted to its terms."

Everybody should. Great job. Really great job.

"Stinks of paranoia to me."

Paranoia is what the President is feeling as Mueller closes in. I can't imagine being paranoid over something on this board. It's awesome you went there.

This is going to be a fun ride.

the only thing I can do is wish you the best.

I mean that with all sincerity.

Almost like they've been banned for violating them before...

But of course, the few who do come back after that are caught very quickly by a great MIR team.

Who knew?

Seems that may apply to brand new posters as well...

Seems that may apply to some long term posters as well...

are to be cashiered.

It is a tough job. Customers are way more sullen and rude than cashiers imo. And cashiers have to deal with it. The ones who are sullen and rude do not last long. Checkouts are often close to the doors which are constantly opening and closing, making for cold drafts in the winter and hot blasts of air in the summer. I have seen cashiers having to wear coats, hats and gloves trying to keep warm in the winter. Cashiers also need to know how to pack a grocery bag - not as easy as it looks. And then some customers try to tell them how to do it, as if they know better. Before you ask, no I am not a cashier, just a customer who has observed cashiers and customers over the years and my vote for civility definitely goes to the cashiers - on average. Obviously there are exceptions.

If I did I don't remember. I'm 61. I've met a few incompetent ones, but I always assume that they're new. I don't remember meeting a rude one.

Enjoy your stay...

But the cashiers where I shop AREN'T sullen OR rude. Maybe it depends on how their customers approach them.

Most big-box stores like Walmart have something like 30 cash registers up front, but only 3 or 4 are usually open at a time, seems like! If they had to do away with those 4 cashiers because of the app, won't they have to hire 4 people whose job it is to check every receipt that goes out the door? I don't know if this will catch on or not. From a shopping perspective I like it, but it seems like it makes it too easy for people to steal stuff. We shall see.....

At least with regard to the big box stores, i think Moose has a point. I have NEVER, even during the holidays, seen more than a third of a registers open. Wal-Mart, Target, what used to be K Mart. 28 registers and 4 to 8 open. Take six people away and who makes sure that everything was properly paid for. 6 people at a kiosk near the front door.

Where do you shop that the population of cashiers is so plentiful? Sure don't see that around here.

No standing in line for quick purchases.

This is a solid advance.

I almost left my hundred dollar order in the isle, then they opened another line.

Haven't seen one in a grocery store since right before the strike back in the early 2000s.

" I am trying to SAVE your job"..

Check me out or, I'll leave this cart and go elsewhere....

I told them that after shopping, I don't want to do the work of scanning each piece of merchandise and then be inspected that I did it right. She said, "Oh, it's easy. I'll show you." I'm an IT person for 30 years, I know how the shit works and I can do it my self. That wasn't the point. I told them that for what I pay and the convenience of scanning the merch, I want it done by a person. Once we accept this, all stores will be impersonal as a Horn & Hardarts automat store.

It's bad enough you can't find anybody in their fucking store, as I was just there the other day. A different store with a different layout. It took me several minutes just to find someone to ask where something was. I almost asked the paint guy because he was trapped.

At big box stores, nothing is decided at the store level. Everything comes from HQ.

I will just go to which ever has the shortest line.

And they're always busy. I always choose them when I have only a few items and they're the way to go if it's the busiest time of day. The cashiers seem grateful for the self checkout too, the first time I used the one at Hannaford, one of the cashiers directed me there and showed me how to use it.

take it off the shelf and put it in your cart. There is no need to checkout, you finalize your purchases with the scanner you carry around the store, and leave.

Still need some humans, this makes stealing even easier lol

Too must theft.

Probably too many people leaving stuff in their carts and not scanning it, or claiming everything that had to be weighed was carrots.

.

And yet another job goes away.
I'm not a luddite - I'm using a computer, right? - but here comes another bunch of people out of work.

or want to switch shifts.,.or have babies...or take vacations..or call in sick..or need workers' comp..

They are TOTALLY a way to remove humans

I still write checks.

My local Wal-Mart has self-checkouts and I loathe them.

Checks ?? I'll self-scan these 25 items, pay with my card, and be loading my car while you're still asking what the date is !

Checks ?!?!

I'm becoming a dinosaur!

One time at CVS, the checker didn't know how to cash a check.

stand you just run your item across it and it scans it, and you place your item in the bagging area to the right of the scanner. I'm sure they have cameras somewhere watching.

THe lines have been insanely long and there's maximum 3 cashiers open.

I don't like seeing people out of work (they just closed 62? Sam's) but I also don't like waiting in long lines.

Some grocery stores (Stop and Shop) have this and I rarely see it used.

The Target near me is getting just as bad. 30 cash register lanes and only 2 or 3 open. I just leave my basket when it's like that.

Lots of cashier stations, all open with happy cashiers and people talking happily while they wait.

Love my store!

But at the same time, I use self-checkouts whenever available.

that stores used to provide.

You can literally walk into any of their stores, pick something up, scan it in their app and walk out the door.

It's super convenient too.

I'm not going to do everything for a store in the honor of shopping there. I get to tag it, inventory it, bag it and pay for it somewhere.

You need to pay me to do all this crap for you. It's not a one way street, and I'm sure the young who purchase 5 things and out will love it. I won't allow that crap on my phone..

Nice, sometimes to be middle age.

It's no big deal. It's not like they're going to be killed, or expelled from the Earth. They'll be just fine.

We've said 'good bye' to many professions over the years. Milkmen..gone. Icemen..gone. VCR/TV repairmen..gone. Elevator operators...gone. Gas Station attendants...gone. Door-to-door salesmen...gone.

That's life. It'll be ok.

actively encourage you to use it. I use them whenever I can. It is faster and I pack the bags correctly. Just as with any innovation...jobs will be lost, but others will be created and it's nothing we can't handle.

so I don’t see how it eliminates jobs.

So that doesn't eliminate jobs.

Riiiight.

There is always one remaining standby checker, in case something goes wrong with the scanners, etc. And the system works pretty well if you're just buying basic stuff.

But the writing is on the wall: Checkers will soon be the next service station attendants -- long gone.

That could get tiring after a while. Have to pull the phone out each time. Maybe if you go in for one item or two. Otherwise, I'd rather the cashier scan them or even scan them myself at a machine in a self checkout. Each one of the improvements puts the store's work onto the buyer.

has it's place.

I use self checkout when I have less than 10 items. It is faster than standing in line for a regualr cashier.

Anything more than 10 items, the self check counter isn't big enough to handle the items as they stack up after being scanned.

but you have to show your ID every time, even if you are medicare age like me. If you use one of those checkouts, someone has to come over to you and look at your id, and that person might be located somewhere else in the store. The bottom line is that it can be much slower than using the regular lines. I only use them if I have just a few items, not including beer or wine. The store makes a lot of money on wine because they have it displayed all over the store.

No one’s eliminated.

for self scan? That's what it is here. They've removed half the tills and replaced them with self-scan. And 1 babysitter. So in the store closest to me that's 4 cashiers gone. Of the remaining 5 tills they only keep 2 open in order to force people to use self scan.

Numerous tills open.

It’s a busy store. I prefer the self checkout.

I enjoyed my job. Many cashiers enjoy their job...at first. Over time you get beat down. I have been demeaned, spit on , and even punched in the face. I have had a gun put to my head as they robbed the tills. But I kept showing up. Because I needed to eat and my kids needed to eat. There will be massive layoffs in retail and will continue. I am not sure how we solve this.

Society will survive just as it survived when other jobs became obsolete. Most telephone operators, office switchboard operators, buggy whip manufacturers, ice men, elevator operators, lamp lighters, bowling pin setters, photo processors, typists, file clerks.......the list could go on and on. All of those jobs eventually became obsolete, and people needed to develop new skills to qualify themselves for the jobs that will be available in the future. 'Twas ever thus.

I bet taxis are replaced by self-driving cars in several years in some places.