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Could they use this shutdown as cover for martial law? (Original Post) woodsprite Jan 2018 OP
No. Agschmid Jan 2018 #1
Don't give them ideas... ollie10 Jan 2018 #2
Pretty sure Stephen Miller has already looked into how he could do it. n/t woodsprite Jan 2018 #9
I really wish somebody would take that guy out to the woodshed. smirkymonkey Jan 2018 #10
NO Iliyah Jan 2018 #3
Nope denbot Jan 2018 #4
Doubt it GP6971 Jan 2018 #5
No but I would not be surprised whatever they do. gordianot Jan 2018 #6
Only permitted in cases of invasion or rebellion which threaten public safety Cicada Jan 2018 #7
thanks! SWBTATTReg Jan 2018 #8
I don't think most people would stand for anything like that. And the power struggle4progress Jan 2018 #11
Without paying the soldiers? Generic Brad Jan 2018 #12
Erik Princes henchmen and the Russian mob coffers woodsprite Jan 2018 #14
Kent State was a very bad idea.... pbmus Jan 2018 #13
No oberliner Jan 2018 #15
No. Here is what the SCOTUS has said about martial law: onenote Jan 2018 #16
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
10. I really wish somebody would take that guy out to the woodshed.
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 12:50 AM
Jan 2018

I don't trust him at all. Whatever plans he has are not good for any of us.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
7. Only permitted in cases of invasion or rebellion which threaten public safety
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 12:31 AM
Jan 2018

Our Constitution limits martial law. In addition the Posse Comitatus statute provides further restrictions which precludes using the federal military for domestic law enforcement unless approved by Congress. There is no need to fear military law here.

struggle4progress

(118,338 posts)
11. I don't think most people would stand for anything like that. And the power
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 01:33 AM
Jan 2018

to do anything like that would require a significant amount of public approval. The US is a large and diverse country, in which Trump's strong disapproval is near 50%, with strong approval only about half that. The "somewhat approve" crowd is around half the size of the "strongly approve" gang, and an idiotic move towards martial law would drive them over the fence to the other side. Then I'd expect "strongly disapprove" from 70%; and the level of actual cooperation with martial law plans would be minor

They're just not smart enough or well-organized enough to pull that off

woodsprite

(11,924 posts)
14. Erik Princes henchmen and the Russian mob coffers
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 09:15 AM
Jan 2018

Add to that a relatively supportive and psychotic base with a good number of sheeple.

onenote

(42,759 posts)
16. No. Here is what the SCOTUS has said about martial law:
Sun Jan 21, 2018, 09:46 AM
Jan 2018


"If, in foreign invasion or civil war, the courts are actually closed, and it is impossible to administer criminal justice according to law, then, on the theatre of active military operations, where war really prevails, there is a necessity to furnish a substitute for the civil authority, thus overthrown, to preserve the safety of the army and society; and as no power is left but the military, it is allowed to govern by martial rule until the laws can have their free course. As necessity creates the rule, so it limits its duration; for, if this government is continued after the courts are reinstated, it is a gross usurpation of power. Martial rule can never exist where the courts are open, and in the proper and unobstructed exercise of their jurisdiction. It is also confined to the locality of actual war."
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