is reason enough to keep them out of power for a generation

they have to stoop so low to win. Fact is, they can't win any other way.

because a handful of people might shoot illegally.

Now where's that 'ignore' button?

edit: by the way, one could possibly die having their voting rights taken away (think health care).
No one has ever died because they were prevented from amassing hundreds of AK-47s.

Are they both right or both wrong?

(Making the unwarranted assumption that the "5 million" number is even remotely right.)

but that is one estimate. Second, the chance of millions having all of their guns taken away is extremely remote and not really the goal, while millions having their voting rights taken away is in progress and the only goal of republicans. If you showed republicans another way to stop a handful of illegals from voting, they would be against it because their goal is to stop people from voting.

No one is trying to stop people from having guns. When you show the NRA another way to stop crazies or gun runners or smugglers from getting guns, they are against it because the goal is no restrictions on guns at all, never, ever. Let the crazies have all the guns they want cuz Rambo will take care of him.

When stated the way you stated the argument, yes, they are both wrong. However, "getting rid of the second amendment" is not the argument ANYONE is making. It's false equivelant.

I made the cardinal mistake of not reading your entire post.

and has been for decades.

Thanks.