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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe New England Patriots: The Only Team in America to Represent 6 Blue States
So, before all you jealous football fans from places that don't win Super Bowls start whining about the Pats winning, just ponder that fact.
The fans that root for the best team to ever play this game are all from states that DIDN'T vote for Trump. Not just one state, SIX.
So, let's be happy for the fans who come from a region that at least knows how to vote
P.S. I know Trump won one electoral vote from Maine, but Hillary carried the state.
brucefan
(1,549 posts)Fucking Trump sniffer
maryellen99
(3,789 posts)bullwinkle428
(20,630 posts)maveric
(16,445 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Brisette did reasonably well in Indy with no training camp and a pourous offensive line, plus a defensive minded coaching staff.
The point is that the Patriots know how to draft a QB. If Brady gets his sixth ring and know that he will likely start next year, it is unlikely that he will resent and understudy coming it. Plus, there are some enticing situations with NFL QBs coming up, Minnesota will need to get rid of two QB during the offseason, the likely two have had injury issues, but when they played, they played well, Teddy Bridgewater would be an excellent pick up for the Patriots if he passes the team physical, cheap too. Colt McCoy would be a good option. I don't see them getting a run at Alex Smith or getting Brisette back from the Colts with McDaniels going to Indy, him having worked with Brisette and seeing what the kid did as a starter in a difficult situation.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)By paying for the education of doctors that agreed to serve poor communities. One key to better healthcare results for everyone is getting more doctors in poor areas and inner cities.
No need to thank me for educating you, it is trully amazing what one find out by doing a little research. But I guess it is easier to blindly hate and become what we hate.
and Hitler loved puppies
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Try not to talk peanuts when a post is about apples.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,198 posts)JI7
(89,264 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I live here in Boston and all I hear about is the Pats and Tom Brady. It's so annoying. I could give a flying eff about the sport, but it's so glorified here.
question everything
(47,534 posts)down to the Stupid Bowl, and this was before the Vikings were contenders.
We've stayed away from downtown since everything is turn around for the "celebration." I thought that this would take one afternoon and that's it. Noooo, 10 days celebration.
PJMcK
(22,048 posts)The physical damages caused by this sport will eventually change the game. Too many people at all levels get serious injuries from the violence of the sport.
JI7
(89,264 posts)Because he is from NY
louis c
(8,652 posts)We're talking about a majority of the voters, not the moron who happens to live there.
Oh, in addition, we send 11 US Senators who either are Democrats or caucus with Democrats and 20 Democratic congressmen and only one Republican.
Of the Senators we send, they include Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, and Chris Murphy.
So, it's nothing like saying Trump comes from New York. It's a blue state that knows him best and rejected him.
Trump's is in office because of states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin and Florida.
If the Pats play the Vikings, 7 blue states will be represented in the Super bowl. Maybe the political gods a paying back the football fans who make up the majority of voters who don't know how the fuck to vote.
JI7
(89,264 posts)louis c
(8,652 posts)So, if they know how to vote, I'm happy they're happy.
I'm rooting against Philly, Because that's one of the states that cost us this election and put Hitler into office.
So, if it's Minny and New England, no Trump state can celebrate.
JI7
(89,264 posts)louis c
(8,652 posts)That's the point. They root for their hometown team, a majority vote for Trump and elect Repukes to the House and Senate.
In New England, we root for our home town team and send 31 of 33 Senators and Congressmen to Washington for the Democratic party. All 6 states voted Hillary. So, it's safe to say that a majority of Pats fans have a sane political leaning. It's also safe to say that Nov. 8, 2016 was the worst night in many New Englanders lives. We deserve the Super Bowl(s).
JI7
(89,264 posts)louis c
(8,652 posts)and a majority on New Englanders vote the right way.
I don't know what state you're from. I don't know if you are represented by Repukes and you live in a red state. If so, I feel sorry for you and I will try my best to make your state as good as mine. That's consequential.
I don't know what NFL team you root for. I know your team can't be as good as the team I root for. That's inconsequential.
JI7
(89,264 posts)For whatever fucking team has nothing to do with politics of the state.
There are many people into sports who have no interest in politics.
Support whoever the fuck you want but don't pretend it has anything to do with red team v blue team in the political sense.
louis c
(8,652 posts)and all my friends are very much the same.
I only speak for people I know, I don't pretend to speak for people I don't know.
Being a football fan and being active in politics are not mutually exclusive. in fact, they rarely are (hence the players taking a knee).
JI7
(89,264 posts)My point is support for teams isn't based on politics
Burt the people on New England are happier than the people of Florida.
and that makes me happy.
mythology
(9,527 posts)Both Belichick and McDaniels got busted for it. They are the only NFL team quarterbacked by a guy who not only got busted cheating, not only got spanked by the FTC for selling concussion "proofing" water but also defends selling snake oil to people with cancer, MS, AIDS and Parkinson's disease. The Patriots are a special level of scummy. That is all they represent. Cheating, disgraceful frauds.
louis c
(8,652 posts)Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)They are *tainted*
Even this season, questionable calls that always go their way.
Today, the had zero offensive penalties and zero defensive penalties despite playing the best front four in football. One penalty for ten yards on a special teams play.
The last run that sealed the game had an obvious hold. It was not called.
I used to think it was just chance, but the coin has come up heads too many times. I want the coin checked.
flotsam
(3,268 posts)The rule was established in 1999 and the game you refer to was played in 2002. How it became something related to Tom Brady in people's minds is past me. But continue with your old wive's tale...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuck_Rule_Game
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)What you think it says . Brady had"tucked," the ball - even wiki says it. Next are you gonna tell me that story where McDaniels "accidentally" filmed a practice too...
flotsam
(3,268 posts)when it had been in effect two years before the NFL "cheated to help him"...
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)And even if it wasn't, there sure as hell was not enough evidence to over turn the call in replay.
Your team, like steroids in baseball, will always have an * by their records.
It's what happens when you cheat.
flotsam
(3,268 posts)"If the NFL hadn't installed the Tuck Rule a full two years before Brady took the field with every intention of using it when it mattered most to launch him into superstardom, then Brady would likely have been nothing more than a career backup who never got to sniff the field. He never would have married Giselle, never would have gone on to win three Super Bowls, never would have achieved anything, and would probably be selling insurance alongside the six quarterbacks drafted before him in 2000."
https://www.patspulpit.com/2015/1/14/7549471/tom-brady-has-been-exposed-as-a-fraud
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)The truth that their team cheats
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)They sucked then too.
louis c
(8,652 posts)Initech
(100,102 posts)Just once I was hoping we'd have a Superbowl without those assholes Brady and Belicheck. Just once.
Cha
(297,655 posts)was born in Philly.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Supported universal healthcare in Massachusetts and New England by donating $25 million dollars to pay for Medical School for future doctors that agree to work in poor communities in Massachusetts and New England for 5 years after finishing Med School. Imagine what we would have if people that can afford to have $3,000 once to help school a future doctor that agreed to serve the poor for 5 or more years? Kraft also fights against hunger in New England, as does Belichick.
I don't like that Kraft spends time with Trump, but Trump did support Kraft during the difficult time after Kraft's wife died from cancer.
CanonRay
(14,113 posts)Seriously, nearly every NFL team is from a blue city.
JI7
(89,264 posts)About the politics of the company. Or quality of the pizza.
maxrandb
(15,353 posts)And their Donnie Short Fingers loving owner, QB and coach
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)jl_theprofessor
(95 posts)pnwmom
(108,994 posts)nini
(16,672 posts)And they don't hide it.
Enabling those organizations is against my rules and should be the norm.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)louis c
(8,652 posts)Wow, you don't know the 6 New England States?
Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Rhode Island and Connecticut. 11 Dem Senators, 1 Rep.---20 Den Cong. 1 Repuke.
Check out those Senators. Bernie Sanders, Liz Warren, Ed Markey, Chris Murphy, Sheldon Whitehouse, Patrick Leahey, Jean Shaheen, Jack Reed to name just a few. The only Republican Senator is Susan Collins, and she ain't no Tom Cotton.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)louis c
(8,652 posts)roscoeroscoe
(1,370 posts)But I still root for whoever is playing the Pats
louis c
(8,652 posts)At least he went to the bluest area of one of the bluest states.
The least you can say is "thank you".
shanny
(6,709 posts)Kraft and Brady, over Belicheck's objections. They just ruined the long term plans.
Sad.
roscoeroscoe
(1,370 posts)No kidding. I'm not sure the 9r's bad karma is really over as they are still the Santa Clara Forty Niners, but Jimmy G... At least I can hope again.
fizzgig
(24,146 posts)well, i actually root for a giant meteor to just hit the stadium, but we denver fans will never get that lucky.
Bradshaw3
(7,529 posts)People are sick of the Patriots winning just like they are sick of Alabama winning. So one region votes blue and one votes red? So what? Lame.
druidity33
(6,446 posts)I'm drawing a blank here...
DAMANgoldberg
(1,278 posts)Carolina Panthers (NC/SC).
#keeppounding
ps. beat New England lost to Philadelphia.
druidity33
(6,446 posts)and the New England Patriots kinda spells it out, dontcha think? It really is 6 states they represent. Not to diminish your Carolina Panthers example... but that's all about "Carolina", isn't it?
DAMANgoldberg
(1,278 posts)There are regional franchises-Denver and New Orleans comes to mind and to a lesser extent, Seattle, and if you follow the letter, Kansas City Chiefs may count, because there are actually 2 Kansas City, MO, and KS.
The founding primary owner insisted on the Carolinas moniker. The first season was held in Clemson (~115 mi SW) and training camp is in Spartanburg (~75 mi SW).
louis c
(8,652 posts)instead, they are all blue, with 11 of 12 blue Senators and 20 0f 21 Blue Congressmen.
shanny
(6,709 posts)druidity33
(6,446 posts)not a geographic area...
shanny
(6,709 posts)But the Patriots only "represent" NE because the team owner moved them out of Boston...after Boston wouldn't build them a big enough stadium.
beaglelover
(3,489 posts)D_Master81
(1,822 posts)Brady is a Trump guy
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)(especially in the context of politics no less)
I can root for a team, without thinking its me winning.
But - hey if it works for ya. then Go Patriots!
Greybnk48
(10,176 posts)for his buddy Trump?
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)see different teams appear in the SB. I couldn't care less about the politics of whatever state a team plays in, plus all 32 teams play in or near big cities (which tend to be blue), anyway. As unhappy as I am with NE being in it again, at least it's not the Broncos or Chiefs in it. I have a stronger dislike towards those two teams particularly after the trolling I've seen from some of their fans on Raider forums the past few seasons. I was furious when Peyton Manning and the Broncos won a few years ago, and I had actually rooted for the Patriots to stop them.
blitzen
(4,572 posts)Go Saints!
Cha
(297,655 posts)Zoonart
(11,878 posts)PCIntern
(25,583 posts)We are gonna crush those Patriots!!!
brooklynite
(94,727 posts)...any more than the Florida Marlins represent all of Florida.
pt. 2: What could be more boring than American football?
Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)years. But the cheating thing and the Brady endorsement of Trump soured me. I hope Phili wins.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)A "pitchers dual" baseball game are all much more boring. And don't tell me how "exciting" soccer is. You play a whole game hoping for one or two fast breaks and then play for a tie is NOT exciting.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,364 posts)... but they're the Boston Patriots.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Demsrule86
(68,667 posts)I can't stomach Brady. I used to like him (did you know he wears uggs cool!)Yeah, I know he is great and all. But he is a POS person. He not only voted for Trump but endorsed him. His wife who has the brains made him stop but...he voted for Trump. Thus I root for Philadelphia. And as my Mom and Dad used to say...'any team can beat any other team on any given day'.
bigtree
(86,005 posts)...the Lieberman of football teams.
drbtg1
(1,054 posts)That scumbag Kraft f#$%ed over the state of Connecticut in 1999 with his lies about moving the team out of Foxboro (which really is the Armpit Of New England on game days!) to Hartford near the intersection of two major interstate highways. During much facetime in front of the cameras about moving the team, he was actually secretly negotiating contract to stay in Foxboro, in violation of the contracts he signed with Connecticut. He is a liar and the lies were proven in a court of law where Kraft had to pay penalties for his lying!
Fuck Kraft!
Have a nice day.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Go Brady! Most qualified, most experienced, greatest quarterback of all time!
"One for the other thumb!"
alarimer
(16,245 posts)God, I hate the fucking Patriots. And I hate their fans.
And fuck Philadelphia too. And their fans. Two shitty teams from two shitty towns. Can they both lose?
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Pro football is a pretty damned conservative institution that promotes an aggressive form of masculinity and funnel millions and millions to right wing team owners, often with municipal subsidies to pay for stadiums. Not to mention causing brain damage in the players.
It can't die fast enough, IMO.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I don't watch sports but love so much of the banter. You knocked it out of the park here. Just fun ribbing.
"before all you jealous football fans from places that don't win Super Bowls start whining about the Pats winning"
Justice
(7,188 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)So you can kindly go straight to heck...
louis c
(8,652 posts)Wrestling and NASCAR don't count.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)I see you.
louis c
(8,652 posts)I sent money to Ralph Northam's campaign.
It's not easy turning a Southern state blue, but you guys did it.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)I'm convinced they cheated, and beyond what has been made public.
Otherwise it's such a smart and resourceful team I admire them more than dislike them.
Besides, I've won so many wagers on them in this era I couldn't begin to count. They dependably cooperate with my systems. On the road after a straight up defeat it's almost a gimme.
fleur-de-lisa
(14,628 posts)I will never support cheaters!