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babylonsister

(171,070 posts)
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 08:54 AM Jan 2018

Chief Justice Has Shifted His Positions

https://politicalwire.com/2018/01/21/chief-justice-shifted-positions/

Chief Justice Has Shifted His Positions
January 21, 2018 at 7:56 pm EST
By Taegan Goddard


“Thirteen years into the job, Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. remains a conservative — but he has shifted to a more moderate position among the conservative justices on the court, a small change with potentially dramatic consequences,” BuzzFeed News reports.

“Among the justices appointed by Republican presidents, Roberts agreed least with Justice Anthony Kennedy in Roberts’ first two terms leading the court — and the most with Kennedy in the two most recently completed terms.”

“That kind of shift could have significant effects on how the current court decides major issues and — if it represents a permanent change — on how Roberts leads the court into the next decade.”
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Chief Justice Has Shifted His Positions (Original Post) babylonsister Jan 2018 OP
That's a small grain of hope. (Hang in there, RBG!) Vinca Jan 2018 #1
Yes -- long live RBG! KPN Jan 2018 #14
I don't trust him BumRushDaShow Jan 2018 #2
I don't trust him on any issues NewJeffCT Jan 2018 #5
He let the ACA go forward BumRushDaShow Jan 2018 #6
He's gotten old and he's thinking legacy in a changing political climate. The GOP is on its way out. marble falls Jan 2018 #3
I read The Breathern by Woodward and Armstrong avebury Jan 2018 #4
There is not yet any grounds for increased optimism with Roberts DFW Jan 2018 #7
His ruling on the ACA was not absolute. NCTraveler Jan 2018 #10
True enough DFW Jan 2018 #23
He's from Indiana LittleGirl Jan 2018 #8
I'll believe it when I see it.. mountain grammy Jan 2018 #9
Life time DownriverDem Jan 2018 #11
Sometimes they do evolve as they age bucolic_frolic Jan 2018 #12
Never trust this guy. zentrum Jan 2018 #13
we can only hope bluestarone Jan 2018 #15
aca ruling is a mistery, not even kennedy voted with him AlexSFCA Jan 2018 #16
yeah, okay. mr federalist society roberts is a changed man... Javaman Jan 2018 #17
this is probably warming us up to feel better when Trump replaces a liberal with a lunatic yurbud Jan 2018 #19
yup. nt Javaman Jan 2018 #22
Trust a corporate lawyer at your peril dalton99a Jan 2018 #18
I remember him having fainting spells kskiska Jan 2018 #20
Roberts Has Epilepsy - No Doubt The Impact of Killing Health Care Has Crossed His Mind dlk Jan 2018 #21
Some people take a lot longer to wise up than others. nt Binkie The Clown Jan 2018 #24
I think hes most concerned with djg21 Jan 2018 #25

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
5. I don't trust him on any issues
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 09:29 AM
Jan 2018

but, i do think he will at least listen to other arguments rather than reflexively voting the (R) party line. He also spoke out against Merrick Garland not even being given a vote, though that was about as effective as spitting into the wind.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
4. I read The Breathern by Woodward and Armstrong
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 09:23 AM
Jan 2018

several years ago. The book looks at the Supreme Court over the first seven years of the Burger court and is an interesting read on how the SC operates behind the scenes. Historically, the SC preferred to create smaller, incremental changes which produced more stability in the court system. With the shift in the court to a more rabid Conservative basis this could be why Roberts might shift more to the moderate side. In the back of his mind, as the Chief Justice, he probably is always aware of how will history view the SC and how does it maintain its credibility.

DFW

(54,405 posts)
7. There is not yet any grounds for increased optimism with Roberts
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 09:38 AM
Jan 2018

He has made exactly one significant mitigating ruling (ACA's constitutionality) that has shown any willingness to want to help the population. He is not Hugo Black. He is not (yet, anyway) a defender of the people of the country he professes to serve.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
10. His ruling on the ACA was not absolute.
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 10:14 AM
Jan 2018

Some parts, which he ruled against, were struck down. Take the mandatory Medicaid Expansion as an example.

He seems to get a lot of kudos for calling a tax a tax.

DFW

(54,405 posts)
23. True enough
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 12:27 PM
Jan 2018

He hasn't really done much of a memorable job as yet, and Citizens United did a LOT of permanent damage to us.

mountain grammy

(26,623 posts)
9. I'll believe it when I see it..
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 10:10 AM
Jan 2018

No trust at all in John Roberts from me.. He fucked up Obama's swearing in, I think because Obama voted against his nomination. Now, that may sound ridiculous and probably is, but he had one job and fucked it up in front of the world.

bucolic_frolic

(43,180 posts)
12. Sometimes they do evolve as they age
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 10:30 AM
Jan 2018

Love him or hate him, I always thought Roberts a very bright man. He has a hint of old time conservatism,
a status quo silence on some issues. In press interviews he has stated how he dislikes the politicizing of the
courts, the aftermath of Bush v. Gore. So that he would seek balance in some cases, and recognize that
not everyone agrees with conservatism should be no surprise. I think him a principled conservative, but
not an ideologue. There is a difference.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
13. Never trust this guy.
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 10:36 AM
Jan 2018

Corporate Judge through and through. Two words: Citizen's United.

That was the most destructive, corrupting ruling since Dred Scott, in terms of undermining Democracy.

That rabid stare of his ain't for nothing!

AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
16. aca ruling is a mistery, not even kennedy voted with him
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 11:04 AM
Jan 2018

I am curious how will he rule in religious freedom cases, like that bakery case from coloroda or any abortion related rulings. During his confirmation, he said that row v wade was a settled law. I think that as a chief justice he feels more responsible that other conservative justices and at least takes precedents into consideration.

 

djg21

(1,803 posts)
25. I think hes most concerned with
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 02:54 PM
Jan 2018

His legacy and place in history. He has to separate himself from the other conservatives, and wields more power and influence as a potential swing vote.

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