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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 12:09 PM Jan 2018

How to recognize satire, even when Poe's Law makes it difficult.

On DU, I occasionally write something satirical as a thread starter. Inevitably, some people don't recognize the satirical nature of what I write. Here's the thing: When I write satire, I include clues to the fact that it is not a news story, even though I write in a typical news style. Others do similar things to provide clues to the nature of the piece of writing. The Onion does that. So do other writers, like Borowitz.

What kind of clues? Well, in a recent post, I mentioned Sarah Huckleberry in the text. Huckleberry is not actually her maiden name, used as a middle name. That's a clue. No news writer would make such a mistake. Another clue is ridiculous exaggeration. As you read, ask yourself whether what was written is a likely thing to have happened. In another satirical piece yesterday, I implied that Donald Trump is rumored to be having sex with a goat kept at the White House. While he is a person of very questionable character, there are actually no goats in residence at the White House, at least not since Steve Bannon was fired. If there were goats at the White House, we would know of it. And despite what you think, Donald Trump probably wouldn't have sex with a goat, no matter how desperate he became. He is the President. He is famous. So, he can grab pussies whenever he likes. At least he seems to think so.

Then, there are sometimes other clues. For example: I typically end satire posts with the evil grin emoji -

Others use emojis like the sarcasm emoji - Such emojis are signals to readers.

If you see something like the things described above, you should probably assume that the post is made in a satirical way for the sheer humor of it. It was supposed to make you laugh, while pointing out something of importance.

It's very amusing when people don't bother to read my posts thoroughly enough to see those clues, and then react as if the post were true. It's also a source of confusion that has to be cleared up at some point, thus lessening the impact of the satire.

I suppose I could just stop writing satirical posts, but what would be the fun in that? Making fun of and mocking stupid, childish public officials like Donald Trump and Sarah Huckabee Sanders is a crucial part of our freedom of speech. Satire has been used almost forever as a type of commentary. It belongs on DU. It belongs in our media. We need to be able to laugh at our puffed-up public figures. Satire promotes sanity.

Note: This post is not a satire, even though it contains some satirical elements.

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How to recognize satire, even when Poe's Law makes it difficult. (Original Post) MineralMan Jan 2018 OP
Satire is needed now more than ever, although it's true that sometimes The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #1
I used to maintain a blog site for my satire, MineralMan Jan 2018 #2
I always know when you are kidding. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2018 #3
Yes. That's because you actually read posts. MineralMan Jan 2018 #4
Please reconsider zipplewrath Jan 2018 #5
Well, I said that I could. But I won't stop. MineralMan Jan 2018 #6

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,732 posts)
1. Satire is needed now more than ever, although it's true that sometimes
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 12:31 PM
Jan 2018

it's hard to distinguish from our current weird and unsettling reality. One big clue for me is whether it's off-the-wall in a way that I would relish if it were real - in other words, would I like it if I read that Stephen Miller had been taken into custody for indulging a sexual interest in farm animals? Of course I would, because it would satisfy my confirmation bias and fill me with Schadenfreude. However, if I came across an item that bizarrely juicy I would also want to examine the source. Is it a web site that, if you read the small print, identifies itself as satirical? Game over. Is it a comment on somebody's blog? Look further; if something like that had occurred a legitimate news source would be all over it. Another clue is that the writer pushes the envelope too far. Stephen Miller being arrested for getting his freak on with farm animals is unlikely, even for him. His preferences, assuming somebody with such dead eyes has any, probably involve the use of ball gags - but let's leave it at that.

I think there is a tendency to pounce gleefully on any bit of "news" that satisfies our desire to see our adversaries brought low. But the key to good satire is to make the story almost believable (and funny at the same time), while it's evident that it isn't true; this is where The Onion almost always succeeds. So: If you want to believe something that's rather unlikely but makes someone you hate look bad, and that thing is also funny (and possibly involves sex), look again at the source, and don't assume a sensational headline is the truth.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
2. I used to maintain a blog site for my satire,
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 12:35 PM
Jan 2018

but I shut it down. I still write some satire on DU, and when I do, there is no link to some other website. I'm not about to stop doing it, either. Watch for this:

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,732 posts)
3. I always know when you are kidding.
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 12:36 PM
Jan 2018

My comments were directed to those who leap to assume something fairly improbable is true without checking the source.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
4. Yes. That's because you actually read posts.
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 12:38 PM
Jan 2018

Many on DU do not. Many just read the headline and first sentence, and then draw whatever conclusions they draw. That's too bad, really.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
6. Well, I said that I could. But I won't stop.
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 01:53 PM
Jan 2018

I can't stop. My fingers on the keyboard have a mind of their own, it seems.

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