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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLook, this is really simple. Dems have NO control right now. None.
Only by holding things hostage can they even begin to direct legislation and policy away from right wing extremism
This is why the 2018 midterms are INCREDIBLY important!!
Imagine Der Twitler having to deal with Dem majorities in the House *and* the Senate??
Let this motivate us all to canvas, make calls, help register and GOTV!
kentuck
(111,103 posts)RKP5637
(67,111 posts)TDale313
(7,820 posts)Or block Dem legislation/policy even when they arent in the majority. Dems caved. They made a big show and then got nothing for their efforts. And no, an empty promise to bring a DACA vote to the Senate floor down the road isnt worth shit.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)There is a 60 vote threshold in the Senate which years ago was invoked infrequently but that has changed. It has helped us this last year. All they got through was a tax cut in reconciliation...and they have all the power. I would say that is pretty damn good.
0rganism
(23,957 posts)i'm not sure how you're calculating "nothing" here.
Cha
(297,317 posts)Bradshaw3
(7,522 posts)Keep the government shut down indefinitely? Piss off independent voters and turn them back to the repubs?
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maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)Whereas the Daddy Party would kill all the kids just to show Mommy what's what.
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)kid in half...the GOP doesn't give two shits about this country or anyone in it.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Last I read, an injunction is place to maintain DACA status. Is that not still the case?
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,007 posts)Raven123
(4,849 posts)However, it is simply impractical not to fund the government. Try to get what you can, and keep the relevant issues front and center. Dems need to make crystal clear how they will govern if they can retake the majority in Nov., and what is lost by allowing the GOP to continue. It's a long time till Election Day.
not fooled
(5,801 posts)and am wholeheartedly in favor of helping the Dreamers. However, the solution is to win back control of Congress.
The country is blue. pukes "win" only through cheating. We need to make sure via massive turnout that the voting results reflect the will of the people.
DownriverDem
(6,229 posts)is pretty soon for another gov shut down.
orangecrush
(19,572 posts)scheming daemons
(25,487 posts)samnsara
(17,622 posts)....our sheer numbers are our power and we need to use it!
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)DownriverDem
(6,229 posts)Who are these negative left leaners? They sure don't know how it all works. Maybe they are bots.
Bradshaw3
(7,522 posts)I don't know that they are all left leaning but several times in my short time here I've come across people who don't seem to understand how the electoral system works and how our legislative process works.
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)Oh right! Because we do have weight to throw around. What did we do with it? Get nothing but empty words from an untrustworthy turtle man.
Dont try to bring up CHIP. That was never NOT going to be funded so we got nothing.
certainot
(9,090 posts)and they're going to be able to blame dems once again, using the same exact media tool they used the last times since '87
so they create the immigration problem to sell voter suppression, create the idiot wall that is actually a bargaining chip , yell for a shutdown, and then get to blame democrats because democrats ignore talk radio.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Its a huge start to righting the ship!
treestar
(82,383 posts)Why is that our fault? We have to fight back somehow, but unless we buy up all the stations, they are going to keep doing that.
certainot
(9,090 posts)it's mom and pop vs wall mart - it's a Rw talking point that it's about competition - as if they ever allowed it....
to start, dems and media and political scientists need to be encouraged to poll trump support for talk radio. too much analysis ignores the fact that this is actually the talk radio president and most of putins trolling piggybacked it. ill bet it shows the closest association outside of white, and that will help establish it as a major factor.
monitor it should be easier now to automate recording and transcribing the main rw talkers so people can search and monitor it without listening to it. knowing about it before it becomes reality means not always having to play catch up. and most of those new dem candidates are going to get swiftboated by their local rw blowhards and they and their supporters will have no clue.
credit it trump needs a RUSH tattoo on his forehead, as do all republican pols and media hacks. they all ride the talk radio bandwagon and feed from the daily prechewed smorgasbord of talking points and excuses. dems in media could accurately preface answers to republican media hacks and politicians with thats what limbaugh says but...
investigate it how long has putin been using it? did they find a way to feed limbaugh and coordinate with him and others? are any of them being paid freelance money? exposing the talk radio gods as tools, especially russian tools, would help. Trump guy Sam Nunberg analyzed 1000s of hrs of RW radio & reported to Trump in 2014. to coordinate with Russian ops?
thank all local businesses that advertise on RW radio stations thank them for trump, trumpcare, global warming, privatization of public education, voter suppression, deregulation, tax breaks for billionaires, etc. its easy and fun to listen to a few minutes here and there and get a few email addresses for thank-you notes that can get to the boss/owners.
protest it include the radio stations in any progressive protests they may be better places to protest than capitols politicians and media will notice.
and to combine a few of those, push the 88 universities that endorse 257 limbaugh stations to stop crapping on their mission statements and start looking for apolitical alternatives to broadcast sports on maybe their political science faculties and students can start studying the most dominant political factor in the US the last 30 years. people need to wonder why the unis should drop rw radio. it will start a discussion, gop will freak out, media will notice, and advertisers will flee.
Cha
(297,317 posts)those who act like they do.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)We are dealing with morally bankrupt bullies.
We got CHIP back! That was a win! Its thru 2024 and we DAMN well better have the WH or at least control Congress by then.
We are seeing more wins with states fighting gerrymandering. We could gain 4-5 seats in PA THIS YEAR!
We are primed. The public is largely behind us.
But this constant pissing down on the Dems will be our undoing!