And I'll bet you think it was cute.

And Still X2...

(Added More Cuteness)

....End of Comment.

A very profound sentiment for you. Nice work!

(petulance met with petulance is a beautiful thing)

they will exact as much out of as they can with what limited power that they have!

For those saying that it was bad and blah blah blah...they don't understand politics and they are not being REALISTIC because they are too busy being IDEALISTIC.

shutdown will show even more that the repugs can't govern even though they're running all three branches of government. That's not good for them at all.

McConnell knows that. He also knows that he needs 60 votes not 50 with Pence coming in to save his bacon by breaking the tie.

We also got 6 more years of CHIP with this short term deal so that bargaining chip is taken away from the repugs so they can't use that to pressure us.

So far so good. Now we move on to making McConnell deliver on his public promise to hold a vote on DACA.

No good deal, another shutdown.

Turtleman knows what's hanging over his head.

Trusting the leadership has really worked..

Or trust in one hand and shit in the other, and see which one gets filled up

He's doing a great job from a really shitty position that is no fault of his own. The shut down showed Twitler to be as incompetent as we all knew he was. CHIP is funded and we can fight about DACA again in a couple of weeks. We are in the minority and there is only so much we can do. Attacking the only leader we have in the middle of the battle is not smart.

I don't know what to believe, with Schumer cutting the deal, and Pelosi criticizing it. You'da thought he'd had her on board at the very least.

Talk about 3 dimensional chess. It may take some time before we find out all the deals that were struck here.

Politics is the art of the possible, even if applied under what might seem to be near impossible circumstances.

so neither could be held for ransom. He did what he could with the leverage he had.

I agree too that it was the only leverage he had, along with making sure that CHIP and DACA were separated...

Don't think so.

& livelihoods behind a shutdown.

What's to say that McConnell won't resort to it once February 8 rolls around!


https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/senate-talks-fall-short-shutdown-064833570.html

"McConnell said he hoped to reach bipartisan solutions on immigration, border security, disaster aid, military funding and more by Feb. 8. If not, he said "it would be my intention to take up legislation" addressing those issues."

How much can we trust what McConnell "intends" to do?

trust McTurtle farther than I can throw a potato chip.

Schumer stick to your guns, remember how the repigs just barreled through their filthy tax cut without any Democratic feedback, and giving them a plan from lobbyists???? To hell with the Repigs. They can't govern for shit. Just ranting.

However, it would not only change the rules that could then in future be used by Democrats against the GOP when the Dems take control of the Senate in future (and I believe that they will) and then reverse every single bullshit awful law that the GOP has rammed down the throat of the American Public to take.

I also think that this act by McConnell would show the true colors and agenda of the GOP to the American public and the rage and backlash of the Blue Wave that will take Congress and eventually the Senate will be felt...

Especially after the crimes of Trump and all the GOP'ers on the take from Russian money gets revealed....

to hold CHIP hostage anymore. That's a big win for us.

Cons look even worse than they already do. McConnell won't go nuclear.

I hate to be on the fence. But I don't trust McC. One observation made on MSNBC this morning is that McC let other leaders speak for him on the details. So he has some wiggle room to say, "I didn't say this or that". What Franken used to characterize as weasel words.

I'm just glad that CHIP is off the table for six years. That's a huge step on the health care front.

inundated with question after question about DACA. She is getting annoyed. This is good.

Setting McConnell up if he doesn't allow a vote on the dreamers, and it is a little closer to elections. If they screw the Dems over they'll face more likely both the House and the Senate would be taken back by the Democrats next election. He knows how things there work better than me, so I have to trust him this time to see if it works, or not.

This was a tactical retreat. At least CHIP is solidified over the next few years.

Can't say as I trust McConnell to keep his word, but there were apparently some Repubs in the 30 senators that drove this deal.

The Dems should stay out of it.

Schumer shud stop trying to make it seem like he got some sort of win, when we didn't.

You know why McConnell isn't going nuclear? Not because he doesn't want to, as he said. It's because he's not sure he has the votes for the budget, even if he goes nuclear.

overwhelmingly for the shutdown. So, why let our foot of their throat?! All the reasons I've heard so far apply equally to not letting those Repug assholes shutdown the government in the first place. But, once we did, why give in? Sorry, I don't get it.

when we put the Dems in power, then we can complain if they don't come through.

I just don't get some of these complainers. It's like they forgot the Dems don't have power. They use what they have, but it is not like these complainers think.

We could have lost that with tragic consequences. Now, we have a 3-week push for DACA. Yes, the results are going to be dicey; it could go either way. But we have a shot with McConnell making a public statement. He can still renege, of course, but he certainly won't get any points for his weasel-speak.

The people who are still swinging in the wind are the DACA folks and that does indeed suck. But as a minority there's just so much the Dems can accomplish. With Trump at the helm and Republicans in charge of Congress, immigration was always going to be a painful issue. Trump made no secret about his perverse stand on policy--mass deportation. A continuing shutdown was not going to change his mind but it would do economic damage and the GOP would most certainly frame and push the idea that Dems were absolutely responsible. Three days and opinion polls were already leaning in that direction: people wanted the Gov't open more than a resolution on DACA.

Now however with DACA on the front burner, those polls should shift because 80% of the American public agree that DACA should be protected. That shift is to our advantage. Doesn't guarantee anything but it makes it more possible than before.

That being said, if McConnell reneges or pushes a bunch of poison pills in any agreement, then we raise Holy Hell, again.

after reading about 75 replies for 15 min. Thank you for saying both the post and neg aspects of this and now and in the future. I was ANGRY after hearing the news on CNN and MSNBC. I have a more balanced understanding and can relax a bit now.

A vote that will be meaningless without the House also taking action.

Sorry, but I just don't get why we let our foot off the Rethug party's throat.

It was worth trying to include it (I for one am glad leadership tried bc it was the right thing to do). But it was risky going in. So now CHIP is definitely off the table and we can refocus all our energy on DACA. There's no guarantee but I think having the issue on the front burner where the Republicans cannot ignore it or pretend it doesn't exist (as they have been doing for months) is a good thing. And yes, the House also has to take action; it is not going to be easy.

And, of course, Trump and GOPers are going to jump around and say--we won, Dems caved, you guys are pussies. So, now it's time for the 80% of the public (Dems, Republicans and Indies) who support DACA, who think the Trumpster's ever-changing immigration prescriptions are dangerous and cruel, to make their voices heard in unison, by the millions:

Protect DACA! Protect the children.

Hear us now or you will most certainly hear us in November.

It was like it was teed up for Chuck

eta: Will this be know as the Dotard's "Lost Weekend"?

when the GOP runs the presidency and both house of Congress. They can spin it all they want, but the end result is the same -- the Repugs have shown decisively they cannot govern, and the "Art of the Deal" president can't close the deal, nor lead his party.

They will claim victory, and perhaps they should since their message of racism (evidenced by their Willie Horton-type ad) won the day over the principled arguments put forward by the Democrats, but they will pay a price for the hours and hours of air time when the general public got to watch just how ineffective Mitch McConnell and Trump are at leading.

And 90% of the public still want a fair solution to the situation the Dreamers find themselves in by no fault of their own.

Probably the best we can do for now. No matter what, Trump comes out of all of this looking like the incompetent and unstable twit we already known he is. The lights are on but nobody's home at the Trump WH and this shutdown showed it. And that's not even my opinion, that's his (from 2013)

that DACA can't be done this way. Well, we all know the fascist aren't going to budge on DACA so the bottom line is we were played like cheap pianos once again.

Stay tuned.

think it's about purity. They think the Dems have more power than they do. They don't realize that the whole country is watching and we will need the independent votes in November. You would think November 2016 would have taught them a purity lesson.

even for a tiny second that McConnell ever had any intention of allowing debate, a vote, or even Dems to comment on whatever horrible "solution" his side comes up with.

Dems will be 100% shut out of the entire thing, as they have been on everything since last November and our leadership knuckled under over a false "promise".

McConnell is not an honest man, not a good man. Hey, did Senator Collins (of his own party) ever get what she was promised? Oh, wait, nope.

Thank you Senators Blumenthal, Booker, Cortez-Masto, Feinstein, Gillibrand, Harris, Hirono, Leahy, Menendez, Merkley, Murphy, Sanders, Tester, Warren, Wyden

Good for them!

last night and this AM! I am very disappointed. I was very angry but now I am more calm and have read a few "positives" to come from this. I brought my DACA sign to the March this weekend and my heart is crying for the Dreamers. McConnell and the fucking moron will screw them royally. They are evil, cruel, untrustworthy liars and cheaters.

I was on a nationwide phone call with MoveOn, Indivisible, etc last night and they wanted the Dems to stand strong. Well, they didn't. Now we proceed to the Call to Action: work for a midterm campaign and support all Dems at every level, from local dog catcher to Congress during the next 9 months. We must win the midterms!

They did not vote for the bill. Anyone from California who voted for the bill would not be returned to the Senate. That's for sure.

But Democrats in other states need to do some educating of their voters.

There will be no vote. Certainly no clean bill. Get ready for mass deportations of people who have lived here since they were kids.

Seems like they don't really care about DACA.

CHIP is very important but the story Americans care about is CHIP.

DACA??? The wall???

A lot of Americans have forgotten how it was for their ancestors to come here not knowing English, not having degrees and certificates that meant anything here.

How quickly we forget.

The DACA people, the Dreamers were educated here. This is their home.

But what does Schumer care? Not much, apparently.

Makes no sense... we're clearly headed for another shutdown. Maybe this next time he'll consult with those potential 2020 candidates who voted the right way.

Oh that's right, He was thrown out.. Who did that? I believe one was Chuck Schumer.

reversing course on the government shutdown.

But you seem to know it all.

11-17. Might have been a little more prepared.

common sense and I knew that the moron would win from the moment I saw him on the golden escalator. I told everyone throughout the entire campaign. So did Michael Moore and Bill Maher. I was prepared but that doesn't make me feel any better. Common sense is difficult to maintain when emotions run high in politics.

'They' are beyond vile, beyond vicious.

On the airwaves: ".... come to their senses." Badmouthing the Dems.

You can't apply this to republucres because they are bereft of 'senses'.

...at least OURS are likable.

And Pelosi is even tougher!

damn thing?

Could it be they know what's popular with the people of this country?