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themaguffin

(3,826 posts) Mon Jan 22, 2018, 04:37 PM Jan 2018

The possible reason the deal (sort of) works

Democrats don't have control, but they voted to move forward and in good faith that the GOP will have a DACA vote.

Of course, nobody trusts the GOP, but if the GOP doesn't come through we are back to square one and THERE WAS A DEAL TO HAVE A VOTE

Democrats can point to that.

It may not play out that way, but I'm thinking out loud here...

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I'm just suggesting that this could be the reason. themaguffin Jan 2018 #2

Maybe because the "stunt" flotsam Jan 2018 #3

But not funding CHIP would have looked bad for Republicans, not for Democrats. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #5

So would failure to help the DACA Americans...N/T flotsam Jan 2018 #8

Many Republicans could care less about DACA but children in their communities Sophia4 Jan 2018 #9

The assholes ELECTED Trump flotsam Jan 2018 #11

We also got 6 more years of CHIP so that bargaining chip is off the table for repugs... brush Jan 2018 #4

Why do we feel threatened by Republicans. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #10

Dont you get we got 6 more years of CHIP? Stop playing checkers. Try playing chess. brush Jan 2018 #12

Once again! Why trust anything the GOP agree too? imanamerican63 Jan 2018 #6

We don't have to trust them. We get CHIP taken out of this and if themaguffin Jan 2018 #13

Key to watch is the Wellstone ruled Jan 2018 #7

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themaguffin

(3,826 posts)

2. I'm just suggesting that this could be the reason.

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Mon Jan 22, 2018, 04:45 PM

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flotsam

(3,268 posts)

3. Maybe because the "stunt"

Reply to Post removed (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 22, 2018, 04:45 PM

Jan 2018

funds medical care for 9 million low income children for 6 years?

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)

5. But not funding CHIP would have looked bad for Republicans, not for Democrats.

Reply to flotsam (Reply #3)

Mon Jan 22, 2018, 04:48 PM

Jan 2018

flotsam

(3,268 posts)

8. So would failure to help the DACA Americans...N/T

Reply to Sophia4 (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 22, 2018, 04:51 PM

Jan 2018

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)

9. Many Republicans could care less about DACA but children in their communities

Reply to flotsam (Reply #8)

Mon Jan 22, 2018, 04:53 PM

Jan 2018

rely on CHIP, and the Republicans' failure to fund CHIP would have been news that embarrassed Republicans.

This is a huge strategic mistake -- typical for the cowardly Democrats we have elected to Congress.

If you are in Congress and you don't want to be primaried, show a little courage please.

The Republicans would have come around.

Democrats acted cowardly and then want us to vote for them.

Good luck!

flotsam

(3,268 posts)

11. The assholes ELECTED Trump

Reply to Sophia4 (Reply #9)

Mon Jan 22, 2018, 05:00 PM

Jan 2018

and you think they're going to suddenly be embarrassed??? Roll another one...

brush

(53,787 posts)

4. We also got 6 more years of CHIP so that bargaining chip is off the table for repugs...

Reply to themaguffin (Original post)

Mon Jan 22, 2018, 04:47 PM

Jan 2018

to threaten us with.

If there is no good deal on DACA in 3 weeks and another shutdown happens, repug incompetence at

governing will again be shown as they run all three branches of government and can't keep the doors open.

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)

10. Why do we feel threatened by Republicans.

Reply to brush (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 22, 2018, 04:55 PM

Jan 2018

Because our elected Democratic representatives don't have the courage to stand up for what they know is right.

The Republicans play games with high stakes, and the Democrats flinch every time.

At least my senators, Feinstein and Harris as well as Sanders did not flinch. I think Gillibrand was also on the no-flinch list.

The Republicans would have funded CHIP or looked to their voters like monsters.

Democrats flinched. Cowards every one who voted for this bandaid.

brush

(53,787 posts)

12. Dont you get we got 6 more years of CHIP? Stop playing checkers. Try playing chess.

Reply to Sophia4 (Reply #10)

Mon Jan 22, 2018, 05:06 PM

Jan 2018

In 3 wks if there is no good deal, there will be another shutdown. Think more than one jump ahead

and into future implications of what's riding on the repugs being shown once again to not to be able to

keep the government up and running even though they control all three branches.

imanamerican63

(13,799 posts)

6. Once again! Why trust anything the GOP agree too?

Reply to themaguffin (Original post)

Mon Jan 22, 2018, 04:50 PM

Jan 2018

themaguffin

(3,826 posts)

13. We don't have to trust them. We get CHIP taken out of this and if

Reply to imanamerican63 (Reply #6)

Mon Jan 22, 2018, 07:09 PM

Jan 2018

they don't follow through, we are back to a shutdown, but they are on the record of promising a DACA vote.

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)

7. Key to watch is the

Reply to themaguffin (Original post)

Mon Jan 22, 2018, 04:50 PM

Jan 2018

rhetoric that pops up in the next ten days. If the Koch Brothers anti Dem Machine goes after Warren and Harris,then you know there will be zero chance for DACA. First to slam should be Fox of course and followed by the likes of Chuckie Toad.

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