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SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 06:11 PM Jan 2018

NOTHING Will Change Over Next 17 Days

They are going to the brink again in a couple of weeks. There won't be anything done in regards to DACA. Even if, and that's a Giant IF, McConnell allows a bill through, it's DOA in the House, or the President's desk. I don't see any way it will be a 2/3rds margin.

Drumpf wanted to clean the plate so he can give his SOTU next week, Mission Accomplished! Once that's over, he really doesn't care, and the next time, the repubs will double down on their blaming any shutdown on the Democrats.

Is there any question that Mitch is "Lucy," and Chuck S. is "Charlie?"

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NOTHING Will Change Over Next 17 Days (Original Post) SoCalMusicLover Jan 2018 OP
I say we start calling !!!!!!!!!!! Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #1
One big thing changed scheming daemons Jan 2018 #2
They Would Have Given CHIP, No Such Intentions On DACA SoCalMusicLover Jan 2018 #5
They will be roundly criticized on DACA too. 84% of public is against deporting Dreamers. scheming daemons Jan 2018 #9
It will turn into the tRump DACA bill... nutty tough, very narrow 4139 Jan 2018 #3
It's telling that they are referred to as "Illegal Aliens" and not "Dreamers" by the republicans. The_Casual_Observer Jan 2018 #4
AGREE! BigmanPigman Jan 2018 #6
There is something that will change - the SOTU... haele Jan 2018 #7
So your theory is we should hold our breath? mythology Jan 2018 #8
He Won't Have The Shutdown Cloud Overhead SoCalMusicLover Jan 2018 #10
 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
2. One big thing changed
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 06:13 PM
Jan 2018

The GOP can no longer use CHIP as a bargaining piece.

January 19th, the GOP held two hostages.

February 8th, they will be holding only one.
 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
5. They Would Have Given CHIP, No Such Intentions On DACA
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 06:16 PM
Jan 2018

The repub position was not in question on CHIP. They would have been roundly criticized if that did not go through.

The same can't be said over DACA. That is the one they really have no intention of giving in on.

4139

(1,893 posts)
3. It will turn into the tRump DACA bill... nutty tough, very narrow
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 06:15 PM
Jan 2018

And he’ll take credit for helping the dreamers

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
4. It's telling that they are referred to as "Illegal Aliens" and not "Dreamers" by the republicans.
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 06:15 PM
Jan 2018

Illegal all the time 24/7 Illegal Illegal Illegal. You are probably right, this is over.

haele

(12,660 posts)
7. There is something that will change - the SOTU...
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 06:24 PM
Jan 2018

Who knows what will come out of that. And ultimately, it's up to Drumpf and whomever has his ear at the moment.

McConnell might actually try to pull a strategic end run to take the power of the DACA issue away from the Democrats, and "come through with a decent bi-partisan bill", trusting Drumpf to veto it - and who knows what would be going on in Drumpf's brain once it's put in front of him?

2017 should have shown you - it's not "Politics as Usual", it's Politics as a Tilt-a-Whirl.

I'm not sure what will happen in the next 17 days, and I'm a student of history.

Haele

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
8. So your theory is we should hold our breath?
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 06:31 PM
Jan 2018

And you're actually just wrong. If we had done nothing for 17 days, that's 17 more days without CHIP funding. It's 17 more days of federal employees, contractors and all businesses who rely on those jobs not being paid.

Donald Trump is going to do what he wants for the State of the Union. Why live in fear of that? Do you think he's not going to lie and act like a blithering idiot?

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
10. He Won't Have The Shutdown Cloud Overhead
Mon Jan 22, 2018, 06:35 PM
Jan 2018

He will act like things are going fine, and he'll also threaten the Dems if they look like they're going to shutdown things again on the 8th.

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