for obvious reasons, KNOWING full well this was the way to go but that some may not see it that way.

Just like our last election, ONE candidate knew what could be done and what could NOT be done.

There's a certain credibility to most everything she utters.

My Sister is quite upset so I will text her now to read this. MAN, where would be be without DU...

Democrats have cornered Republicans into a three week race to get a "deal" done on immigration. There are two dangerous ways this could play out:

1. Senate republican leadership lumps together legal status but no path to citizenship for DACA, $20 B in funding for the wall, and comprehensive immigration reform that shuts down family based visas as well as the lottery program. Democrats are given a choice between accepting a hardline stance on immigration to protect dreamers, or shutting down the government by rejecting the "immigration reform" bill that they demanded in exchange for ending the shutdown.

2. Senate republican leadership dutifully writes a beautiful DACA bill that puts dreamers on a full path to citizenship, and contains no poison pills. Senate passes the bill. McConnell has fulfilled his promise completely, and Democrats further extend funding to avert a shutdown in February. In the meantime, the House passes their own DACA bill that has no path to citizenship, $20B in wall funding, and scraps family/lottery immigration. Negotiations break down, but McConnell proved that he could be trusted - just those plebian house members who wouldn't play along.

I mean, things _could_ go as planned, and we'll merely trade wall funding for DACA, but that feels like "best case", not "worst case". I'll be delighted to be wrong about this.

I think we could negotiate a better deal than that.

But if what you are going to agree to is exactly what was on the table to avert the last shutdown, I don't see how you can argue (to the editorial's premise) that this "bold fold" somehow puts "pressure on Trump and his GOP enablers".

is really African American Women.. they are the ones who get out and VOTE Consistently for the Democratic candidates.

I'm not sure who's "furious"?.. I see mostly reasoned reality posts on why this is a good step forward.

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The hair on fire crowd needs to take a deep breath.

I think it's more of a chance for some politicians to get tv time. Do you really think any of the Republicans are going to change their minds from when they supported repealing Obama's deal?

I think McConnell agreed because he knows it won't make a difference, in the end. But we'll see.

the Repugnant base showing at the polls.
If he is then I hope he rolls snake eye's.

The plan is never to give them amnesty. Deporting is secondary. That's my understanding. Because the base doesn't want "them illegals" getting govt benefits and getting to VOTE.

He still needs a deal in 3 weeks or risk another shutdown.

That was just as true of the CR on Friday. That CR also had the 6-year CHIP deal...there was nothing special about this deal except it was one week less...that’s it. All those other things would have still been true but without the shutdown...no one should be so foolish to think Democrats have the political stomach to shut down the government twice in 4 weeks.

the shutdown CHIP kids would have been without medical care...can you imagine the optics? And these are real kids that we need to consider no matter what. We did what we had to.

Seriously I hope this works out great, I really do. That CR on Friday had all the same things and we could have avoided the negative impressions from shutdown on Friday to “deal” on Monday. I truly believe republicans have every intention to screw us and more importantly screw DACA kids and other immigrants.

was pushing for a couple of days extension while a DACA bill fix was written. But at some point it become apparent, it wasn't going to happen. And we had commercials here in Ohio...the Democrats care about illegal aliens more that America's kids (CHIP) and it was having an effect. We weren't getting anywhere. My fear is the GOP has no intention of doing anything but begin deportation...and that makes me sick. But we got what we could. CHIP is a big deal. And I am hoping that the GOP doesn't want to see horrible pictures of deporting a million people on the news. It is our only shot. We just don't have the power to do more...hopefully we change that in 18.

Lets hope for the best...and get these asshat GOP's out as soon as possible. I have a cousin I love very much who has lost her job...she has a number of medical issues including MS and Leukemia which is in remission...she will die without medical care and the GOP didn't expand medicaid in Virginia. I hate the GOP so much...there are no words. We can pay for the medicine but the doctors visits and hospital cost thousands.

It was a brilliant tactical move. CHIP is safe, and DACA is next.

If we had voted for the CR on Friday CHIP would have still been funded for 6 years and CHIP would have still have been off the table when it expired in 4 weeks instead of 3.

What did we actually gain? A promise that doesn’t hold water? I mean McConnell has lied repeatedly and often on immigration reform for years. There is zero reason to believe anything he says on immigration reform.

Republicans still need to defend their position on DACA in 2018....but now CHIP is baked in to legislation (Thanks Democrats!). Repub's got nothing on CHIP and they now get to defend their indefensible position on DACA. Good luck with that!

Having any sense of shame. Again, they having literally lied for YEARS on immigration reform with little to no repercussions.

Many here have missed my point, I’m not questioning Democrats, I’m questioning Democrats believing that republicans will tell the truth or hold up their end of the deal.
They have spent the last three days bashing DACA kids as “illegal immigrants” and insinuating they are criminals or drug dealers or living off welfare.

Why, after bashing DACA kids in such a manner do we think we are going to get honest debate on DACA or immigration reform? It’s absurd.

I deeply hope I’m wrong and we save them. I really do. I am also a realist and know that republicans are racist and xenophobic hate mongers and that hate is baked into their republican brand. They are going to do what the republican base wants and they do not want a DACA deal. They could care less about harming their election chances, all republicans care about is screwing over people of color.

down. Did you notice that you assumed their framing of the issue to be valid?

It’s what TV commercials in key states all across the country were saying non-stop all weekend: that Dems were putting “illegal immigrants” over sick American kids...there was little effort to point out that republicans could have passed this very same CHIP bill (6 year CHIP, exactly the same that passed today) on a simple majority vote several months ago but refused to allow it to come up for a vote as a stand-alone bill in the House or Senate because they wanted to ratfuck Democrats.
That could have been avoided by voting for the 4-week CR/CHIP bill last Friday and then using DACA and the threat of shutdown 4 weeks from now. Another shutdown is not realistic...2 shutdowns in 4 weeks is politically unpalatable.

I fear the most likely outcome is a republican “take it or leave it” deal that includes a pathway to citizenship for DACA kids but otherwise includes stomach churning riders that will essentially dare Democrats to vote against it. I hope I’m wrong but republicans are nasty, racist, xenophobic liars and they have never failed to disappoint Democrats by saying and doing whatever they can to screw over people of color.

I'm glad some people see the big picture

for DACA during the next round. Trump is crowing about a win, but it is temporary and worth nothing in the long run. Don't let anybody tell you different, the Democrats won this battle, and are going to win the next one, too.

This move will shed additional light on how inhuman they are Expose them for the monsters they are.

this really disturbing situation. My Sis is quite upset and loves Joy so I'll text her now to read this...Man, where would we be without DU.....

bargaining chips. They gave away CHIP for nothing. Next, they MUST vote for DACA, and when they do, the shit will hit the fan. Trumpy’s base will go white-hot.

"They gave away CHIP for nothing"

One down, one to go..We will also have DACA.

Then indictments will be unsealed.