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virginia mountainman

(5,046 posts)
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 03:16 PM Jul 2012

Robert Shrum speaks frankly about Gun Control

He hits the nail on the head.. A few excerpts...

The stark reality is that the half-century battle for gun control has been lost politically—again, and again, now perhaps permanently



Then came an apparent breakthrough in 1994—and an intense and immediate backlash. I was on a phone call with President Clinton, House Speaker Tom Foley, and Majority Leader Dick Gephardt during which the president decided to push ahead with two bills: a ban on semiautomatic assault weapons, and the Brady Bill to require a five-day waiting period and a background check for handgun sales. Foley and Gephardt warned that the legislation could decimate Democrats in the midterm elections. They were right. Democrats lost the House; Foley, who enraged his rural constituents by voting for the Clinton package, lost his own seat.



You can debate the reasons for the change in public opinion; remember though, that those who favored modestly tougher restrictions paid a political price even when they apparently were on the safe side of the electorate. Advocates of gun control plainly aren’t there now.


.....and even many Democrats. And many others who in their hearts may favor gun control now treat it as the issue that dares not speak its name. They’re not cynical, they’re practical. They believe, correctly, that they can’t bend the arc of public opinion—and if they try, they will jeopardize not only the winning of elections, but the prospects for winning other great purposes such as economic justice and equal rights. This is more than a rationalization. It is an inescapable fact of politics today.


He understands what the push for gun control, can cost us in the long run.. People must realize that the battle for gun control, has bled many Democrat seats, and cost us dearly in our pushes for Health Care, and getting rid of the Bush tax cuts. Those that lost their seats because of gun control, now have Rupukes in them instead.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/07/24/for-obama-romney-and-america-gun-control-is-dead.html
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Robert Shrum speaks frankly about Gun Control (Original Post) virginia mountainman Jul 2012 OP
Sad to say, but every word of that is true. nt hifiguy Jul 2012 #1
It certainly is nt virginia mountainman Jul 2012 #5
Right, elleng Jul 2012 #2
After controlling the House for 40 years, the 1994 election (with the gun control issue) shifted the AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #3
Exactly... virginia mountainman Jul 2012 #4
Democrats are already running neck-and-neck LuvNewcastle Jul 2012 #6
exactly.... virginia mountainman Jul 2012 #8
K/R OmahaBlueDog Jul 2012 #7
Time to kick this one, so much foaming at the mouth, and nary a thought about the end effects... nt virginia mountainman Jan 2013 #9
 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
3. After controlling the House for 40 years, the 1994 election (with the gun control issue) shifted the
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 03:36 PM
Jul 2012

control of the House to the Republicans.

Karl Rove and his minions know this.

Is it a smart idea for anyone revive the 1994 issue and display contempt and disrespect towards gun-owning Democratic DUers, other gun-owning Democrats, and gun-owning independents?

If there is a better wedge issue that can be used to harm Democratic candidates and help Republican ones, what is it?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1012837

virginia mountainman

(5,046 posts)
4. Exactly...
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 03:42 PM
Jul 2012

People don't realize that a political neophyte like GWB was able to become Governor of Texas, largely because of Ann Richards outspoken opposition to CCW legislation.

If he had not won that election, their would have been NO "bush-co"..

What did THAT cost us?!?!

LuvNewcastle

(16,847 posts)
6. Democrats are already running neck-and-neck
Tue Jul 24, 2012, 06:27 PM
Jul 2012

with Republicans. If people want the Dems to lose, start raising hell about gun control. The country has too much to lose by giving the GOP the edge.

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