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babylonsister

(171,096 posts)
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 07:48 AM Jan 2018

Trump Hasn't Destroyed Obama's Legacy. He's Revealed How Impressive It Was.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/01/trump-hasnt-destroyed-obamas-legacy.html

January 22, 2018 10:23 am
Trump Hasn’t Destroyed Obama’s Legacy. He’s Revealed How Impressive It Was.
By
Jonathan Chait


When Barack Obama departed the White House a year ago, his legacy appeared to face mortal peril. Liberals, with their tendency toward hysteria, and conservatives, with their tendency toward gloating, united behind this belief. “Donald Trump has the power to rip Barack Obama’s legacy out by its roots,” asserted a story in Vox. “Brick by brick, President Trump is trying to tear down what Mr. Obama built,” reported the New York Times. “The trade deal? Canceled. The climate pact? Forget it. Cuba? Partially reversed. Health care? Unresolved, but to be repealed if he can navigate congressional crosscurrents.”

Yet even as conservatives have grown more satisfied with Trump’s accomplishments, they have retreated from their giddy belief that he could and would dismantle his predecessor’s. Indeed, in a curious way, Trump has inadvertently affirmed the value and durability of the 44th presidency. One year after his departure, Obama’s legacy is actually stronger than ever.

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These aren’t small points about hypocrisy. The entire basis of Republican criticism of Obama’s economic policy rested on these charges. It all turns out to be phony: their terror of deficits, their abhorrence of alleged favoritism for Solyndra or other firms, their conviction that the outcome of these policies was pathetically weak. The Republican Party’s own standards of economic policy reveal the Obama economic agenda to be a success. The only real problem Republicans had with Obama’s economic record all along is that Obama was the one creating it.

But what we now see clearly in hindsight about these charges was far from evident at the time. During the Obama administration, Republican complaints about deficits, “crony capitalism,” and the sluggish recovery were hardly just boob bait for the Fox News audience. These criticisms were taken seriously by members of both parties and formed the basis for a consistent undertow of bipartisan disapproval, especially among business and media elites. Why didn’t Obama get Republicans to make a deal on the deficit? they demanded. The self-styled sensible center could not stop giving Obama a share of blame for the extremism of the opposition.

The rise of Trump has revealed a great deal about the character of the party that opposed Obama. Its unyielding opposition to anything he did was not caused by him “ramming partisan legislation down their throats” or failing to cut the deficit or arrogantly refusing to woo their leaders. The opposition to Obama was primarily a racialized hysteria justified on spurious procedural grounds that have since been discarded. The noise and frenzy of opposition obscured the scale of what Obama was able to build. In the brutal contrast, Trump’s presidency has shown us what a successful presidency with enduring achievements really looks like.
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Trump Hasn't Destroyed Obama's Legacy. He's Revealed How Impressive It Was. (Original Post) babylonsister Jan 2018 OP
Damn straight! lkinwi Jan 2018 #1
I heard on MSNBC news that he spent all Sunday inside BigmanPigman Jan 2018 #2
I'm telling you underpants Jan 2018 #8
This is EXCELLENT. It's the best article I've read in a long, long time. lamp_shade Jan 2018 #3
GOP opposition to Obama thbobby Jan 2018 #4
Kick. This is fabulous! Squinch Jan 2018 #5
That's so true. I hadn't thought of it that way. Vinca Jan 2018 #6
Excellent article underpants Jan 2018 #7
How nice it was LiberalBrooke Jan 2018 #9
Even Chait gets it... Blue_Tires Jan 2018 #10
No matter how tRump leaves office... Grammy23 Jan 2018 #11
I chalk it up to dumb and privileged. babylonsister Jan 2018 #14
Obama was a great president. He did many, many good things. PatrickforO Jan 2018 #12
Obama had and continues to have class, intelligence and dignity. Trump has/had none of those BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #13
And that's what babylonsister Jan 2018 #15
Ain't that the bloody truth! Cha Jan 2018 #16
I wish he would. babylonsister Jan 2018 #18
Yeah, that would be Cha Jan 2018 #19
awesome and true bluestarone Jan 2018 #17

BigmanPigman

(51,636 posts)
2. I heard on MSNBC news that he spent all Sunday inside
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 08:06 AM
Jan 2018

watching video clips of Obama in 2013 to make himself feel better somehow. What a crazy, fucking moron!

underpants

(182,911 posts)
8. I'm telling you
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 09:02 AM
Jan 2018

Only a few short steps from Howard Hughes territory

He must have miserable this weekend. He had to stay in the "dump" with his wife and kid. No party. Massive protests against him personally. Not invited to Celebrity Big Brother

thbobby

(1,474 posts)
4. GOP opposition to Obama
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 08:08 AM
Jan 2018

was racial and just run of the mill GOP hate mongering.

It amuses me that much of trump's base are white supremacists.

Obama - Honest, Intelligent, Good Husband, Good Father, Good American.

Trump - Holy fucking shit! What an evil fucking moron.

And the white supremacist rejoice.

underpants

(182,911 posts)
7. Excellent article
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 08:58 AM
Jan 2018

The self-styled sensible center could not stop giving Obama a share of blame for the extremism of the opposition.

The only real problem Republicans had with Obama’s economic record all along is that Obama was the one creating it.


gee what does this sound like?

In Trump’s government, the entanglements between the businessmen who run the government and those receiving favored treatment from government run so deep it is frequently impossible to tell one from the other.

Grammy23

(5,815 posts)
11. No matter how tRump leaves office...
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 10:25 AM
Jan 2018

Whether he runs out the time on his term, gets impeached, booted for psychiatric reasons, strokes out or has a massive MI, tRump ain’t gonna be happy with the way history treats him. He thinks he can erase President Obama’s record but what he has really done is underscore what an amazing record it is. With the Republican actively and quite openly working to thwart his every move, he still amassed an impressive record of legislation and policies. tRump is clearly just a petty, vindictive man who will never leave his mark on history the way President Obama did. He is so insecure and has such low self esteem that he actually thinks he can undo his predecessor’s record and in essence remove his place in history. No, the second thing he has done is highlight his own flaws and frailties. And that will not make him happy. Somehow, that makes me very happy and I am sure others will rejoice at that knowledge, too. He isn’t leaving the record that he thinks he is.

babylonsister

(171,096 posts)
14. I chalk it up to dumb and privileged.
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 09:12 PM
Jan 2018

I really have been appalled at how tone deaf dt has been to any issue but himself and his interests. Yea, the shutdown, he let someone else handle that.

He just doesn't give a shit.

PatrickforO

(14,593 posts)
12. Obama was a great president. He did many, many good things.
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 10:29 AM
Jan 2018

Trump is tearing down part of that legacy.

The bolded part of the last paragraph smacks of truth.

We need the Fairness Doctrine back.

 

BoneyardDem

(1,202 posts)
13. Obama had and continues to have class, intelligence and dignity. Trump has/had none of those
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 11:58 AM
Jan 2018

Regardless of the number of Obama's initiatives Trump tries to reverse, it all back fires and truly helps others realize how bad Trump is in comparison. Reversing good policy that worked for the people instead of corporations, isn't going to be forgotten.

babylonsister

(171,096 posts)
15. And that's what
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 09:16 PM
Jan 2018

pisses dt off so much. He will never measure up. So I wish he'd accept that and resign.

Cha

(297,733 posts)
16. Ain't that the bloody truth!
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 09:21 PM
Jan 2018

Fuck off trump.. you've only exposed what an asshole you are to the entire world.

babylonsister

(171,096 posts)
18. I wish he would.
Tue Jan 23, 2018, 10:12 PM
Jan 2018

He might. He'll start feeling sick or old or something. I hope Mueller gets him first.

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