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RandySF

(59,279 posts) Tue Jan 23, 2018, 01:28 PM Jan 2018

Schumer Withdraws Offer for Funding Border Wall

Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) “is taking his big spending boost for Donald Trump’s border wall off the table,” Politico reports.

“The Senate minority leader, through an aide, informed the White House on Monday that he was retracting the offer he made last week to give Trump well north of the $1.6 billion in wall funding Trump had asked for this year, according to two Democrats. And now they say Trump will simply not get a better deal than that on his signature campaign promise.”

https://politicalwire.com/2018/01/23/schumer-withdraws-offer-funding-border-wall/

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Schumer Withdraws Offer for Funding Border Wall (Original Post) RandySF Jan 2018 OP

Make Mexico PAY for the wall....... ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2018 #1

his signature campaign promise NewJeffCT Jan 2018 #2

McTurtle can use that as excuse not to bring up DACA in the Senate. 4139 Jan 2018 #3

And then we're full circle back to shutdown. DetlefK Jan 2018 #5

You may be correct..... ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2018 #6

Meanwhile, DACA kids, many of whom cannot communicate in their "native" language Ms. Toad Jan 2018 #16

Says you. That was not part of the agreement yesterday. Kingofalldems Jan 2018 #7

What does an agreement with McTurtle have to do with anything? shanny Jan 2018 #9

Yep. Everyone who was shitting on this as not a win because it was the same deal as Monday kcr Jan 2018 #11

Then let him be the one to do it. Schumer needs to cut the White House out ooky Jan 2018 #8

Allready baked into the Cake. Wellstone ruled Jan 2018 #12

I beleive all democrats should us trumps OWN f*cking words and promises against him at all times beachbum bob Jan 2018 #4

Donald already turned it down... kentuck Jan 2018 #10

Only because Trump is trying to eat his cake and have it too. ooky Jan 2018 #14

Good. This is what should be done when dealing with a disingenuous negotiator. ooky Jan 2018 #13

This is a great move by Senator Schumer Gothmog Jan 2018 #15

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,794 posts)

1. Make Mexico PAY for the wall.......

Reply to RandySF (Original post)

Tue Jan 23, 2018, 01:31 PM

Jan 2018

Trump promised! Hold Trump to his promise Democrats in the Senate!

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)

2. his signature campaign promise

Reply to RandySF (Original post)

Tue Jan 23, 2018, 01:33 PM

Jan 2018

was that Mexico would pay for the wall, not Congress and the American people

4139

(1,893 posts)

3. McTurtle can use that as excuse not to bring up DACA in the Senate.

Reply to RandySF (Original post)

Tue Jan 23, 2018, 01:33 PM

Jan 2018

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)

5. And then we're full circle back to shutdown.

Reply to 4139 (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 23, 2018, 01:35 PM

Jan 2018

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,794 posts)

6. You may be correct.....

Reply to 4139 (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 23, 2018, 01:37 PM

Jan 2018

But McConnell is on record saying that DACA would be dealt with. A gift to Democrats actually for attack ads for the Midterms those Republicans running for the Senate.

We will have to see.

Ms. Toad

(34,102 posts)

16. Meanwhile, DACA kids, many of whom cannot communicate in their "native" language

Reply to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 23, 2018, 09:25 PM

Jan 2018

are "home" in a country they have never lived, some of them likely hurt killed as a result of the conditions that may have triggered their parents' move to the US in the fist place - or as a result of not understanding the different conditions in their "home"land. (Not just hyperbole - https://www.ohio.com/akron/news/may-27-2004-deported-man-shot-to-death-in-brazil)

Deporting Dreamers is not a gift - we're supposed to be better than that; we need to put people's lives over party and stop talking about the political gains this move gained us.

Kingofalldems

(38,487 posts)

7. Says you. That was not part of the agreement yesterday.

Reply to 4139 (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 23, 2018, 01:39 PM

Jan 2018

shanny

(6,709 posts)

9. What does an agreement with McTurtle have to do with anything?

Reply to Kingofalldems (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 23, 2018, 01:43 PM

Jan 2018

It would be like relying on the preznit's word: it will be broken whenever it suits him/them.

kcr

(15,320 posts)

11. Yep. Everyone who was shitting on this as not a win because it was the same deal as Monday

Reply to Kingofalldems (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 23, 2018, 01:46 PM

Jan 2018

clearly didn't know what they were talking about.

ooky

(8,930 posts)

8. Then let him be the one to do it. Schumer needs to cut the White House out

Reply to 4139 (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 23, 2018, 01:42 PM

Jan 2018

of his negotiations. Trump has no negotiation credibility. Let McConnell take the offers to Lying President.

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)

12. Allready baked into the Cake.

Reply to 4139 (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 23, 2018, 01:50 PM

Jan 2018

Schumer knows full well the Rethugs in the House will not let DACA proceed. He is forcing Trump and his so called Congressional Leaders to finally put up or shut up.

Campaign Season kicks off on April 1,unoffically. Perez and the DNC read the results of the weekend Marches and Rallies. Despite what the MSM is propagandizing,the Blue Wave is becoming a Tsunami.

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)

4. I beleive all democrats should us trumps OWN f*cking words and promises against him at all times

Reply to RandySF (Original post)

Tue Jan 23, 2018, 01:35 PM

Jan 2018

this is a really good start.

make republicans defend their liar in chief

kentuck

(111,110 posts)

10. Donald already turned it down...

Reply to RandySF (Original post)

Tue Jan 23, 2018, 01:43 PM

Jan 2018

When Kelly called Schumer and said they had no deal...

ooky

(8,930 posts)

14. Only because Trump is trying to eat his cake and have it too.

Reply to kentuck (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 23, 2018, 02:04 PM

Jan 2018

Trump’s goal is to get a budget deal without signing a DACA deal. He knows his base of nazi’s would love that.

Watch in coming weeks while he postures for a spending bill signed for an unsigned DACA “commitment”. Then he will renig on his commitment.

The only way the dreamers will get legal status with a path to citizenship from Trump is if it is signed as part of or ahead of the spending bill. Dems have to stand their ground or the dreamers are screwed.

ooky

(8,930 posts)

13. Good. This is what should be done when dealing with a disingenuous negotiator.

Reply to RandySF (Original post)

Tue Jan 23, 2018, 01:51 PM

Jan 2018

I spent my career negotiating for my company with the management teams of other companies. Trump’s behavior in this “negotiation” was laughable to all experienced negotiators. He has zero negotiation skills. Schumer should dump him from the negotiation altogether and focus on McConnell. Going over to the White House is a waste of time.

Gothmog

(145,619 posts)

15. This is a great move by Senator Schumer

Reply to RandySF (Original post)

Tue Jan 23, 2018, 04:02 PM

Jan 2018

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