I think you're right.

Some might be, but I think most can see the bigger picture.

(not my next-door neighbors but young people in my community).

It is important for Democrats to point out that these young Dreamers trusted the US and provided their names and addresses and that now that information that they provided will be used against them. How cowardly. How shameful!

Pod Save America yesterday tried to be positive, but didn't really pull it off.

This whole Russian thing isn't limited to the idiot and high level GOP.

You are right.. Don't fall for the division.

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all the attacks are not necessarily helpful.

There's a few I'd bet money are Russian plants.

To their local hate radio station

it wouldn't be an issue

Keep bashing the other side and don't let up until Jan 2020.

geographically to McConnell's home to demonstrate there.

Schumer is supposed to protest on behalf of Democrats especially his constituents to McConnell. It's a tough job, but Schumer chose to run. No one forced him to do it.

We need tough representatives in Congress. It's great that the Democrats got six more years of health care under CHIP.

But one of the things that disturbs me the most about the capitulation regarding the Dreamers is that many of the Dreamers, trusting our government, gave their names and other information when asked by the government to do so. They trusted, and now Trump is violating that trust by ending their right to stay in the US. This is so dishonorable.

Dishonorable and very troubling to me. That is what really bothers me about this.

Sounds like a Roger Stone operation.

had a Nationwide phone call Sunday night about plans for the future and getting women, minorities and young people to run for office in the midterms and they need our support. Two of the women were on Chris Hayes last night and they are not trolls. The grassroots activists are running and winning! They are our only chance to get more Dems to win in the midterms. This is their goal. The activists support equality and equal rights for everyone (including Dreamers). Their lives are in limbo and they are suffering needlessly.
Here is their plan.
https://www.womensmarch.com/empower/

I watched MSNBC tonight and Lawrence had guests on and they made a lot of sense. One said that the DACA/Dreamers and the Shutdown need to be two separate issues for them to get any GOP support in the future. The general public favors the need for a Clean Dream Act but more Americans say a Shutdown is worse than protecting Dreamers and they will end up getting sacrificed when it comes down to it. A few GOP senators like Graham have already moved toward McConnell's side when he moved the deadline up a week (this was news to me). Other GOP reps will do the same and then there will be zero GOP support for the Dreamers. Rachael said that she is skeptical of GOP support on Feb 8th and they will be even more hardliner now since the GOP is saying that they have won the Shutdown battle.

get off your butts and run for office! Politics is not just staking out a position and refusing to budge. The Dems are in the minority in both the House and the Senate. The can Filibuster in the Senate, but if they hold the budget hostage too long, they will lose. They have to finesse the GOP.

Just about everybody missed Schumer's little maneuver after the vote on the CR, when three different Dem Senators stood up and called for 'unanimous consent' on different stand along bills, the first one being that military personnel continue to be paid. It was a very seldom used parliamentary procedure where any member can call for 'unanimous consent' on any bill, and if there is no objection, then the bill passes. the 'unanimous consent' feature is used for much of Senate routine business. But in this case, the GOP couldn't allow the Dems to pull off this end-around, so Mitch McConnell actually had to 'object' to paying the military during the shutdown in order to keep the bill from passing. So, the Majority leader of the Senate is on record as objecting to paying the military, but not objecting to paying himself during the shutdown. Gonna play well come the Nov elections.

They went out on a limb, defending their party to the hilt against everyone, maintaining that the shutdown was not the fault of the Democrats, that this was a Republican shutdown, that the Republicans are in total control, that the Dems have no control over the budget, that Trump reneged on the DACA deal he'd made with Schumer & Graham, etc.

Then all of a sudden, Schumer gets a "promise" to debate something on the floor...and moving up the CHIP funding to be in this bill. Making all of the rank and file protestations in defense of the Dem Party a joke. This "deal" makes it appear to some that the Dems were in fact the ones holding things up, that it was their shutdown all along.

So they're angry at the one who left 'em at the dance, holding a bag of doggie poo. McConnell was never AT their dance, so not mad at McConnell. McConnell laid a trap and got a bite, is all that he did. Typical Repub manipulation.

In some ways, what happened is not that different from some people jumping on board the Republican trap to oust Franken. Some people just don't seem to be very savvy about Republican manipulation.

But the anger is temporary. It'll blow over, IMO. They're expressing their anger at the one(s) who left 'em at the dance. They're not going to be protesting at the house of someone who didn't bring 'em to the dance.