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.@DonLemon: There's "nothing random" about the arrest of a Michigan man who threatened to kill CNN employees. "This is what happens when the President of the United States repeatedly attacks members of the press simply for reporting facts he does not like"
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uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... pluralistic societies
onit2day
(1,201 posts)or writing "fake news". The "leader" is the only truth teller.
oasis
(49,389 posts)had been the victim multiple threats for her coverage of Trump's Administration. I've never seen her more angry.
FakeNoose
(32,645 posts)There are a lot of trolls and bots out there that just tweet shit all day long. That's all they do, either because they're paid to do it or because they're cray-cray. Journalists display their names on their videos and printed articles, and many of them have their own blogs now or their publication has a blog.
Until Twitter makes it difficult or impossible for trolls to get anonymous accounts (don't hold your breath) this is going to continue. I guess the journalists have to let it roll off their backs, or else leave the industry.
jayschool2013
(2,312 posts)Right. Board operators, receptionists, interns, clerks, assistants and other employees at CNN need to accept that possible death from Nazis is just part of the job. Thanks for thinking of us.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,564 posts)Some anonymous voice on the phone says he's coming with a gun, I would err on the side of caution, I think.
Merlot
(9,696 posts)That gif of the woman reporter being probaby seriously injured is in really bad taste.
padah513
(2,503 posts)Dulcinea
(6,639 posts)A friend of mine works there. He works in the engineering department--he's one of the guys who keeps all the equipment running. I will not accept that he or any of his co-workers should fear for their lives.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,174 posts)The fact the amount of threats have most likely risen dramatically, under the implied encouragement of the President, that 1% represents a much larger amount of people than it once did.
And yeah, that picture is not funny in the circumstances.
Marthe48
(16,975 posts)Somebody listens or reads. There is someone who hears or reads the threat and will act on it. It doesn't matter if a real person wrote it or if a bot said it. Somebody will hear, and move to make it real. Voicing a threat makes it real and is the first step to a horrible conclusion, because of course, whoever moves to harm journalists (or any other group) takes the first step and doesn't have the brakes to stop there. And I bet you money that whoever voices the threats know gd good and well that someone will internalize it and try to make it real.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)Hekate
(90,714 posts)...or you should. It depicts a female news reporter being injured by a Stop sign -- as if to say what? That the "Noose" is fake and she ought to be stopped even by being injured?
Not funny, not pertinent to a discussion of death threats. The Mad King encourages violence against anyone who dares dispute him. If you don't know that by now, you have not been paying attention.
MFM008
(19,816 posts)At stake because of maggots bullshit.
One day the full force of karma is going to come at him head on. Until then the media needs to be on top of his greedy ,fat ,ugly, corrupt. stupid ass like his FAKE hair.
livetohike
(22,145 posts)However, Toomeys aide hung up on me last week so Ill see how this goes.
BigmanPigman
(51,609 posts)What did you say to the staffer to get that reaction?
livetohike
(22,145 posts)that the incompetent fool in the White House doesnt have a clue what this or anything else is all about.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,564 posts)And, apparently, neither are you.
Nice! Your dedication and effort are commendable!
struggle4progress
(118,294 posts)TREVOR BACH, MARK BERMAN AND KYLE SWENSON
The Washington Post
NOVI, Mich. - The man who federal authorities say threatened to kill CNN employees had declared in high school that he identified with Adolf Hitler and suggested "the Holocaust was exaggerated," according to a former classmate.
That description of Brandon Griesemers behavior in high school emerged after the FBI accused him of placing menacing phone calls to CNN, describing the news organization as "fake news" and vowing to carry out a massacre at its Atlanta offices. The FBI also said in court documents that Griesemer made "disparaging remarks regarding Jewish individuals" during one call and, months before threatening CNN, called a Michigan mosque and "made derogatory comments relating to the mosque and Muslims" ...
Anthony Luongo, who was a classmate of Griesemers in high school until both graduated last year, described him as a Trump supporter who "came in after the election and was very happy" and compared Griesemer's reaction to that of a fan whose team had won a big game ...
In the first call on Jan. 9, the affidavit said, a phone number associated with Griesemer called a publicly listed number for CNN and said: "Fake news. Im coming to gun you all down." He then used two expletives and a racial slur before hanging up, the agent continued ...
http://www.post-gazette.com/news/nation/2018/01/23/A-Michigan-man-has-been-accused-of-threatening-to-attack-CNN/stories/201801230227
Another sustaining member of Trump's Very Fine People Club
DBoon
(22,366 posts)Your average young Nazi
jimmil
(629 posts)He has got to be one of the smartest Trump supporters in the country!
marble falls
(57,102 posts)his probable response, "Little Donnie Lemon makes up more fake news,"
Cartoonist
(7,317 posts)Is that Trump will call him "sour Don Lemon"
struggle4progress
(118,294 posts)been dominated by a man who weekly if not daily uses his powerful pulpit to rail against the media, and CNN in particular, as unpatriotic "enemies of the American people" who spread "fake news" to smear him and hurt the country.
Sane and stable people hear that message; so do impressionable and unhinged ones. As our last President said, "Dont tell me words don't matter."
Fake news, real incitement: Consequences of Trump's war on CNN
EDITORIALS
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Tuesday, January 23, 2018, 7:45 PM
Perseus
(4,341 posts)and that is to say, "if any of this happens I am personally holding you responsible."
Trump could be tried for the same offense that Charles Manson was tried for, if any murders occurred from his constant threats to the press, Manson did not commit the actual, physical crime, but he was the mastermind of the murders. If Vincent Bugliosi ('The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder') were alive today, I am sure he would agree.
In that book, Bugliosi makes the case that Bush, Chaney, Powell, Rice, Rumsfeld, etc, can be tried under the same rule that was used against Manson.
Sunsky
(1,737 posts)He's just talking to air. Trump and his crazies do not care.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)Hope CNN is providing him extra protection.
happy feet
(869 posts)for speaking truth to power and directly on several ocassions, including this.
George II
(67,782 posts)...."there was a tweet from him a few minutes ago, so I know you're watching....."
That must have turned his orange cheeks bright red with rage!
ET Awful
(24,753 posts)getting very close.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,014 posts)looking away. Every tweet, every lie and smear gets dutifully reported and hashed over the whole news cycle.
They can't **not** enable this most dangerous fool of a "President".
Our country is too complex to be governed by just a Tweeter-in-Chief and his minions.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,564 posts)that that was still a time when political adversaries were just that. People with whom you disagreed - not people who hated with every fiber of their being.
Obviously, that doesn't include everyone, but, as people say now.... it's trending.
LeftInTX
(25,370 posts)They need to get out of the "reaction" business. (My dad used to say, "When you react, they react and it creates a vicious cycle" )
While Donald Trump's tweets are routinely attacked as false, this often only helps to spread his message, says cognitive linguist George Lakoff. So DW asked him how to best respond to the US president's fiery language.
Are you suggesting we should then not try and refute Trump's falsehoods if that only helps him?
No, I am not saying don't refute them. I am saying you don't refute them by repeating his language and repeating his claims. You refute them by undermining them, you refute them by understanding what you are doing and saying the opposite in positive terms not in negative terms.
Each of Trump's tweets is a strategy. He has four strategies. One, frame first, meaning get your understanding of the situation out there. Two, divert attention from things you don't want people to pay attention to, for example by attacking somebody else. Three, attack the messenger or assign blame to someone else and deflect it away from you, for example the press. Four, launch a trial balloon and say something outrageous, an extreme version of what you believe to see what the reaction is and if it isn't too bad you are in the clear.
You might report the tweet, or not, in a very short sentence and then you go back to the real news and state that what he wanted to do was not get you to think about the real news and here it is. Speak the real truth that he doesn't want people to hear before you report any tweet.
http://www.dw.com/en/dont-retweet-donald-trump-and-dont-use-his-language/a-42213110
I think CNN has a tendency to overdo Trump news. Like when the Grab Them by the Pu$$y tape came out. They played it over and over and over. Sure, it gets ratings for CNN, but it also reinforces Trump in a strange bizarre way - as in "There is no such thing as bad publicity" way.
I haven't been watching CNN lately. I wonder if they are running the Stormy Daniels story ad-nauseum?
world wide wally
(21,744 posts)Piece of cake.
dalton99a
(81,515 posts)and then he'll blame Hillary for it
copperearth
(117 posts)He never stops blaming Hillary or Obama.
randr
(12,412 posts)why don't they ask him to prove it? This is the ongoing problem, he makes ridiculous claims and no one challenges him.
A stand must be taken and all reporting must stop until he can offer evidence of what is "fake". Or proof of anyone of his absurd utterances.
A bully only gets away with being a bully because no one stands up to them.
VaBchTgerLily
(231 posts)Trump always puts blame on someone else rather than hisself. I suppose he blames Hilary and Obama for his indiscretions and infidelity with the prostitutes also!!!
BobTheSubgenius
(11,564 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)of jail.
Stay safe CNN employees.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,564 posts)However, I'm going to repeat it anyway: Where are the parents?
This kid just got out of high school, so it's not like he's been out of the family loop for several years. They didn't know their son was a Nazi wannabe? Come on! I can't believe that, nor that reasonable parents wouldn't have been reeling him in.
unblock
(52,253 posts)there's no appealing to his sense of decency or propriety. he has neither.
all donnie would hear when told that nutjobs might act violently when he riles them up is that what he's doing it working, and he'll just do more of the same, if not amp it up.
LeftInTX
(25,370 posts)And will encourage it more.
CNN needs to listen to George Lakoff.
I wouldn't put it past Trump to hire that guy himself.
ProfessorPlum
(11,257 posts)Cha
(297,297 posts)it lays right at the feet of the orange stain.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)And they are all too willing to kill for him. He is a very dangerous man. We need to take over congress this year so we can get him out of office. He is a threat to everything decent in this country. God, I hate him so much!
Mahalo, Cha!
Cha
(297,297 posts)snip//
"The FBI opened an investigation into Griesemer after he called CNN's Atlanta headquarters nearly 22 times earlier this month, calling the organization "fake news" in the first call and saying "I'm coming to gun you all down."
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/370416-ex-classmate-says-man-who-threatened-cnn-employees-identified-with
Well there's goes Godwin's Law.
I hope all these assholes who trump instigates to violence find themselves in prison for a long time.. and they never heard the name "trump".
Don Lemon
smirky
bdamomma
(63,868 posts)rallies he would antagonize people to fight with each other. Such a jerk.
smirky
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)He is an evil person, isn't he? I can't wait to see him get what is coming to him. I want to see justice!
bdamomma!
47of74
(18,470 posts)...feel the need to obtain concealed carry permits and carry at all times. Not after this.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,564 posts)I'm sure that's another fact Drumpf does not like.