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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 12:36 PM Jan 2018

George Lakoff: 'Don't retweet Donald Trump and don't use his language'

Are you suggesting we should then not try and refute Trump's falsehoods if that only helps him?

No, I am not saying don't refute them. I am saying you don't refute them by repeating his language and repeating his claims. You refute them by undermining them, you refute them by understanding what you are doing and saying the opposite in positive terms not in negative terms.

Each of Trump's tweets is a strategy. He has four strategies. One, frame first, meaning get your understanding of the situation out there. Two, divert attention from things you don't want people to pay attention to, for example by attacking somebody else. Three, attack the messenger or assign blame to someone else and deflect it away from you, for example the press. Four, launch a trial balloon and say something outrageous, an extreme version of what you believe to see what the reaction is and if it isn't too bad you are in the clear.
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So you are saying people should not retweet Trump's tweets and use his language?

Yes, don't retweet him and don't use the language he uses. Use the language that conveys the truth. Truths are complicated. And seasoned reporters in every news outlet know that truths have the following structure: They have a history, a certain structure and if it is an important truth, there is a moral reason why it is important. And you need to tell what that moral reason is, with all its moral consequences. That is what a truth is. Reporters have to say those truths. And then if he says something that is false or is trying to deflect from it you report it in a sentence or two and then you go back to the truth.

You might report the tweet, or not, in a very short sentence and then you go back to the real news and state that what he wanted to do was not get you to think about the real news and here it is. Speak the real truth that he doesn't want people to hear before you report any tweet.


http://www.dw.com/en/dont-retweet-donald-trump-and-dont-use-his-language/a-42213110
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George Lakoff: 'Don't retweet Donald Trump and don't use his language' (Original Post) ehrnst Jan 2018 OP
YES! elleng Jan 2018 #1
People should listen to Lakoff Bradshaw3 Jan 2018 #2
Absolutely. He KNOWS what he's talking about. Dave Starsky Jan 2018 #12
I agree Clarity2 Jan 2018 #3
I completely agree. And for goodness sake, don't follow him! Pacifist Patriot Jan 2018 #4
i mute progressives who retweet the twit elmac Jan 2018 #5
and i have the same feeling about posting fox news clips nt elmac Jan 2018 #6
#DistractionDon n/t Pobeka Jan 2018 #7
Matt Taibbi said something similiar GusBob Jan 2018 #8
DU posts would go down by half lol. nt msongs Jan 2018 #9
BAN (voluntary) directly quoting Shitler on his fucked up tweets on DU? Got my vote. Fred Sanders Jan 2018 #10
News reporting can probably get fairly boring, so ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2018 #11
And EVERY time, call a lie a lie; the emperor has no clothes. fierywoman Jan 2018 #13
..but it's so cute when it talks like a real boy!!! n/t librechik Jan 2018 #14
I blocked/muted Donnie ages ago and encouraged others to do the same... Blue_Tires Jan 2018 #15

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
12. Absolutely. He KNOWS what he's talking about.
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 03:35 PM
Jan 2018

And he's been screaming his head off about this stuff since before The War on Terra, to anyone who will listen. And we keep making the same mistakes.

Clarity2

(1,009 posts)
3. I agree
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 12:54 PM
Jan 2018

I wish no one from our side would retweet him. Why throw his gaslighting out to the twittersphere & give him the satisfaction of so many retweets?

Better to reply with corrective information. Use screenshots instead of retweets if absolutely necessary.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
4. I completely agree. And for goodness sake, don't follow him!
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 01:17 PM
Jan 2018

Don't prop up his numbers and consequently his ego.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
5. i mute progressives who retweet the twit
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 01:29 PM
Jan 2018

i understand they want to show what a complete idiot he is but i don't want that crap on my twitter.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
8. Matt Taibbi said something similiar
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 01:33 PM
Jan 2018

we are caught up in the cycle of Trumps outrage tweet cycle

enough

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,350 posts)
11. News reporting can probably get fairly boring, so ...
Wed Jan 24, 2018, 03:32 PM
Jan 2018

... an excuse to say "shit-hole" without repercussions may be welcome relief.

Shit hole.

Shit hole.

Shit hole.

Shit hole.

Shit hole.

Shit hole.

Shit hole.

Shit hole.

Yeah.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
15. I blocked/muted Donnie ages ago and encouraged others to do the same...
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 02:06 PM
Jan 2018

But I *WILL* say that Trump's pre-2016 tweets should still be fair game, since it's so easy to find a tweet from 2+ years ago that's 180 degrees opposite from the bullshit he's spewing today.

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