and climb to top of wall. On the other side is 30' with no ladder. That is like on top of a 4 story building. If you jump, you can break bones in the legs, spine, arms or ribs.

Or you pull your ladder up and drop it over the other side and climb down.

a lot of load in their backpacks. You want them to carry an additional 30 feet long rope, and tie it to the ladder on Mexico side, and slide down the rope with a heavy backpack? And then how do they get back into Mexico for the next smuggling job? Just playing devil's advocate!

Then they walk back through the gate.

Getting back into Mexico would be easy - just go through established checkpoints.

What you do is set up a network of agents in the US. On the day you want to smuggle a few 50- pound bags of drugs into the US, you show up at the wall with your bucket truck, throw the drugs to your accomplices, and haul ass.

"Ok, migrants, when you see the ground rushing toward you, think 'feather'".

Get eight pallets of fairly heavy product. Put four of them over the kingpin on a 53-foot trailer. Put the other four over the axles. Put the immigrants in between. Drive to a "warehouse" and unload.

They can afford a truck. They are rich because they get plenty of cash from selling drugs in US to stupid addicts. But the man who shot Steinle was in no condition to go over a 30' wall.

I see a primetime TV Challenge show in the making.
Team Challenge shows bring high ratings & this one could be open to Teams from around the world.

I'd watch it!

Lol

Don't believe the faux noise hype.

If anything they could breach it with a charge.

Gimme a crossbow, a boarding-hook and a rope and I'm over that wall in 5 minutes.

history.

A place for future generation to go and see how close we came to becoming a dictatorship and isolationist state.

What a screen. Cinemas cope on steroids.

They bring the contraband in back packs. They do not carry additional tools.

Good for luggage & belongings but maybe not for people. 😐

This stupid wall is like a challenge game to anyone who wants to play.

Let's use it for people too. The take off would only be around 8 g. The landing part, not so much.

Trampoline?
😞

It's fun to pretend we know. Paris once believed the Maginot Line would prevent war.

Stomach-turning alternate reality.

As long as there are employers who are willing to hire illegal immigrants, they will find a way to get here. If the repubs were serious about ending that they would fine the heck out of very employer caught doing so. Of course, that would create a lot of unintended consequences, crops rotting in the fields, rising costs for goods and services because employers would have to pay fair wages. They would have to comply with safety regulations because their employees wouldn't be terrified of being deported if they filed a complaint against their employer. The "immigration problem" will not be solved until the underlying economic forces that drive it are addressed. I'm not holding my breath on that.

As you said "The "immigration problem" will not be solved until the underlying economic forces that drive it are addressed."

Half of the illegals arrive on jet planes and overstay their visitor/student visa.

That means you have to dig 7 feet deep. Or just buy a Jon boat and come ashore in Alabama.

Mexican smugglers have some pro tunnelers working for them

escape in style
i can only imagine the tunnels a wall will bring, they'll probably have light rail

Read that in the article.

like trumps wall being made fun of?

Mahlao, Wwcd!

What a bunch of fools - Walls never worked

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Which is what the vast majority of undocumented immigrants to our country do.

AFAIC, if they want to be here, they should be welcome.

I'm tired of the cartoonish xenophobia of the anti-immigrant crowd.

100 ft sheer cliff utterly ridiculous.

That wall is a monument to Republican stupidity and racism.

Invading Tatars broke through the Great Wall of China in 1550, followed by the Mongols a century later. Hadrian's wall in England was breached by northern Pict tribes in the third century. The Berlin Wall stood for 30 years as the concrete manifestation of communism over the democracy, but ordinary citizens tore it down in 1989, and thousands of people breached that wall.

Walls are a status symbol, an egotistical display of raw power, much like unzipping your pants and showing off your junk. By building the damn thing, Trump and his hardliner Republicans are telling foreign "barbarians" that they, and they alone, have the power and the chutzpah to do this monstrous thing... so nyaah-nyaah!

Trump's wall probably won't be built because its an inefficient waste of money and personnel, but even so, people will find ways to breach the barrier.

But if getting to the other side was critical, my guess is blowing it up would be an option.

I do like the fire truck idea, though.

Before I built a wall I'd ask to know
What I was walling in or walling out,
And to whom I was like to give offence.
Something there is that doesn't love a wall,
That wants it down.

-Robert Frost

"... I want a good convincing show, but anyone actually gets to the top of the President's wall, expect a lifetime of pushups and KP. Do you read me?"

Seriously - couldn't they blast their way through? Or use a wrecking ball? Or dig a tunnel under? Or go around and come in by boat from the Pacific or the Gulf of Mexico? Or fly to Canada and walk across the border from the great white north?

Apparently they forgot to tell us it's going to be 50 feet tall and 100 feet into the ground. There you go. I fixed it. Oh and by the way, this makes the cost of the wall go up an order of magnitude. But, it will be worth it.

But we can't give them any ideas! I mean remember the Simpsons Movie?

(The wall is red herring bait for contractors anyway, since ports, airports, tunnels, beaches are main points of entry)

If for some reason you can't go under or over....or cut or blow your way through...you go around.

crossed North of it.

The Maginot Line was impervious to most forms of attack, including aerial bombings and tank fire, and had underground railways as a backup; it also had state-of-the-art living conditions for garrisoned troops, supplying air conditioning and eating areas for their comfort.[1] Instead of attacking directly, the Germans invaded through the Low Countries, bypassing the Line to the north. French and British officers had anticipated this: when Germany invaded the Netherlands and Belgium, they carried out plans to form an aggressive front that cut across Belgium and connected to the Maginot Line. However, the French line was weak near the Ardennes forest. The French believed this region, with its rough terrain, would be an unlikely invasion route of German forces; if it was traversed, it would be done at a slow rate that would allow the French time to bring up reserves and counterattack. The German Army, having reformulated their plans from a repeat of the First World War-era plan, became aware of and exploited this weak point in the French defensive front. A rapid advance through the forest and across the River Meuse encircled much of the Allied forces, resulting in a sizeable force being evacuated at Dunkirk leaving the forces to the south unable to mount an effective resistance to the German invasion of France.[2]

The line has since become a metaphor for expensive efforts that offer a false sense of security.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maginot_Line

Trump needs to brush up on his military history or at least his French history. Surely his generals can warn him that walls can be circumvented in all kinds of ways.

What a boondoggle. What a waste of money. Trump's wall.

There must be unsurveilled stretches. And I’m talking drugs, not people.

If they succeed, they get a Green Card.

I don't get it.

Machine guns, mines, searchlights, dogs, and guard towers didn't stop people. This POS wall will stop nobody.

had to endure a second of fux news, and the amount of trump humping...the whole getting behind him, and their obvious glee at that atrocious wall. Really, they are deplorable.

I went camping on the Kaiparowits Plateau. From the top you can see the hole-in-the-rock trail the Mormon Pioneers forged. While standing at the top I was awestruck at the sheer determination it must have taken those rugged people. I was so impressed.

Then I read the plaque that explained their plight. Come to find out their motivating factor was to setup to keep outsiders out. Damn...that diminished all of that.

The point is, if the Mormon settlers managed the hole-in-the-rock those seeking a better life will manage a wall.