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lordsummerisle

(4,651 posts)
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 09:36 AM Jan 2018

Julian Assange's health in 'dangerous' condition, say doctors

Julian Assange’s long stay in the Ecuadorian embassy in London is having a “dangerous” impact on his physical and mental health, according to clinicians who carried out the most recent assessments of him.

The pair renewed calls for the WikiLeaks publisher to be granted safe passage to a London hospital.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/jan/24/julian-assanges-health-in-dangerous-condition-say-doctors

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Julian Assange's health in 'dangerous' condition, say doctors (Original Post) lordsummerisle Jan 2018 OP
karma is a bitch beachbum bob Jan 2018 #1
Post removed Post removed Jan 2018 #2
... SidDithers Jan 2018 #5
Are you F**KING SERIOUS??? DetlefK Jan 2018 #7
The actual charges included forced sex and use the word rape hack89 Jan 2018 #22
The actual charge was rape. Spider Jerusalem Jan 2018 #31
Yep Lithos Jan 2018 #33
You have no clue about the two men you mention. NCTraveler Jan 2018 #9
Assange is not a whistle blower but a traiter who take his marching orders from Putin. Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #12
Welcome to DU. lagomorph777 Jan 2018 #14
Assange is russian paid scum leftynyc Jan 2018 #20
Nope Assange is a scumbag rapist ismnotwasm Jan 2018 #25
Send him to Russia still_one Jan 2018 #3
Prisons have hospitals treestar Jan 2018 #4
This mythology Jan 2018 #16
Awww Lil Missy Jan 2018 #6
I thought a bunch of armed thugs stormed the embassy and took him away. NCTraveler Jan 2018 #8
sob sob sob..my heart bleeds for the poor dear. (not really). Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #10
I understand the UK has a great National Health Service. brooklynite Jan 2018 #11
It does. Denzil_DC Jan 2018 #18
This past weekend Alternative Radio.org aired an apparently recent talk by Assange Orrex Jan 2018 #13
Wouldn't miss him if he passes, but too bad he can't be interrogated. lagomorph777 Jan 2018 #15
Really, wouldn't miss him either if he dies...but I rather have him ... SWBTATTReg Jan 2018 #29
Trump's hookers could take a wiki-leak on him. lagomorph777 Jan 2018 #35
He's got it better than the tens of thousands of people incarcerated in solitary confinement. TheBlackAdder Jan 2018 #17
Tough leftynyc Jan 2018 #19
I am sure British prisoners get good medicial care. nt hack89 Jan 2018 #21
dangerous condition? BoneyardDem Jan 2018 #23
........ LeftInTX Jan 2018 #24
Let me guess, he can only get treatment in an Russian hospital? Renew Deal Jan 2018 #26
Sure let him stop at a hospital on his way to jail. nt HopeAgain Jan 2018 #27
Fuck Him montanacowboy Jan 2018 #28
Julian Assange's health in 'dangerous' condition, say doctors. LenaBaby61 Jan 2018 #30
I am supposed to feel sorry for this man????? ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2018 #32
He unleashed hell on us Clarity2 Jan 2018 #34
Hiding out from sexual assault charges can do that to a man 4now Jan 2018 #36
Good... He deserves to suffer a bit Blue_Tires Jan 2018 #37

Response to beachbum bob (Reply #1)

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
7. Are you F**KING SERIOUS???
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 10:12 AM
Jan 2018

1. Karl Rove? Where the f**k did you get that from?

2. The actual charge was not rape but something between sexual assault and rape, a definition that only exists in swedish law. The charge was that he had consensual sex with a woman but lied about wearing a condom.

3. If you read Assange's old online-dating profile, you will see that he's an arrogant, pretentious, pseudo-intellectual douchebag who sees ordinary women as beneath him. Would such a person lie about wearing a condom?

4. First, it wasn't a "right-wing government". It was center-right.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_general_election,_2010
Second, what counts as "center-right" in Europe would count as Democrats in the US.

5.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/jun/19/wikileaks-cables-ecuador-julian-assange
"Taken together, President Correa's actions and the provisions of the new constitution present a serious challenge to Ecuadorian media and freedom of the press."
Elsewhere, the documents warned of weaknesses in Ecuador's judicial system. One cable on terrorism warned: "Ecuador's judicial institutions remained weak, susceptible to corruption, and heavily backlogged with pending cases."
Another cable, which prompted Ecuador to expel the US ambassador to the country, accused Ecuador's commander of police of using his position "to extort cash and property, misappropriate public funds, facilitate human trafficking, and obstruct the investigation and prosecution of corrupt colleagues", concluding that "corruption among Ecuadorian national police officers is widespread and well-known".

hack89

(39,171 posts)
22. The actual charges included forced sex and use the word rape
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 12:05 PM
Jan 2018

There were four charges, none of which mentioned lying about a condom.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
31. The actual charge was rape.
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 02:15 PM
Jan 2018

The finding in the British high court was that the charge would have amounted to a charge of rape under English law. This was extensively covered here, some years ago.

Lithos

(26,404 posts)
33. Yep
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 02:21 PM
Jan 2018

For the longest, I thought they were getting him for what is essentially a misdemeanor. However, the more I read up on what he did, it would be categorized as rape.

Given his status as someone who does Putin's dirty work in laundering leaks, I've got little sympathy for his situation.

L-

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
9. You have no clue about the two men you mention.
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 10:21 AM
Jan 2018

One of them has been clear he is no fan of Assange personally.

Your post makes no sense and defies reality. I'm guessing you would refer to them as #alternativefacts.



Moreno is flat out sick of Assange. They cannot back down this late in the came.

Correa calls Moreno a "traitor" and "wolf in sheeps clothing".

Demsrule86

(68,685 posts)
12. Assange is not a whistle blower but a traiter who take his marching orders from Putin.
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 10:35 AM
Jan 2018

He is also a rapist as defined by Swedish laws. Some might consider lying about wearing a condom...not rape. But is the law. And lying about wearing a condom is shitty thing to do...given the risk of STD's and pregnancy. Fuck Assange. Here is hoping he spends the rest of his days in prison. He is not progressive nor is he a whistleblower.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
8. I thought a bunch of armed thugs stormed the embassy and took him away.
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 10:14 AM
Jan 2018

Assange and his crew are so full of shit.

Piece of shit has serious mommy issues. Most likely why he is such a sexist pig who believes he is above the law.

Denzil_DC

(7,260 posts)
18. It does.
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 11:48 AM
Jan 2018

Well, comparatively speaking (the NHS in England and Wales is struggling under not-so-creeping privatization).

But the Tory government's been clamping down on non-citizens using NHS services for free. The days when anyone could wander into an A&E department and be treated as required without questions asked are history. Assange is an Australian citizen, and also, since earlier this month, an Ecuadorian one.

If his health's so bad, I imagine the embassy could scrape together the money for whatever treatment's necessary. Getting him to a hospital if he needs it is the problem, as he's got a warrant out for breach of bail.

The UK Prison Service would offer treatment free of charge, of course.

Orrex

(63,224 posts)
13. This past weekend Alternative Radio.org aired an apparently recent talk by Assange
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 10:50 AM
Jan 2018

In it, he decried the proliferation of "fake news" and, more specifically, the ability of mainstream media to decide what is and is not "fake news."

Curiously, no one asked him what he gets out of serving as Putin's Minister of Propaganda, nor why he worked actively to undermine the Clinton campaign.

I would shed no tears if this asshole's time as come.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
15. Wouldn't miss him if he passes, but too bad he can't be interrogated.
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 11:05 AM
Jan 2018

And that would put a permanent stop to the hypothetical possibility.

SWBTATTReg

(22,166 posts)
29. Really, wouldn't miss him either if he dies...but I rather have him ...
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 02:06 PM
Jan 2018

put in prison, and wikki-leaked to death!

 

BoneyardDem

(1,202 posts)
23. dangerous condition?
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 12:31 PM
Jan 2018

I imagine mental health or mental fatigue issues are present, but are all of his own making. Others in far worse conditions have survived, learned and developed a mental capacity for dealing with confinement. He has access to reading materials, his computer, tv, healthy prepared meals, a soft clean bed and private bathroom, and likely an in house gym.

I won't feel an ounce of pity for the smug little prick that comes out on the balcony of the Equadorian Embassy, just to pass along more of his smirking, traitorous, rhetoric.

LeftInTX

(25,555 posts)
24. ........
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 01:50 PM
Jan 2018


He has had plenty of opportunities to leave.

If he had gone to Sweden, he would have been done with his sentence by now.

Didn't the statute of limitations run out for his crime over there?

And isn't he claiming that he won't leave the embassy because "The US will arrest him".

Doesn't Trump love him?

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,791 posts)
32. I am supposed to feel sorry for this man?????
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 02:19 PM
Jan 2018


Perhaps prison would be a better place if he steps outside the Ecuadorian Embassy.

Clarity2

(1,009 posts)
34. He unleashed hell on us
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 02:28 PM
Jan 2018

“It is unconscionable that Mr Assange is in the position of having to decide between avoiding arrest and potentially suffering the health consequences, including death, and the need to call an ambulance if a life-threatening crisis such as a heart attack were to occur.”

How many here...and well, globally...are suffering the health effects of Trump? How many heart attacks, strokes, and stress related illnesses?

Please, cry me a river.

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