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Tweet from James Comey (Original Post) orangecrush Jan 2018 OP
Sounds like he wants to Iliyah Jan 2018 #1
Comey got a raw deal. NCTraveler Jan 2018 #3
Our most dangerous enemies are inside. Comey's actions Hortensis Jan 2018 #17
Go pound sand. nt. NCTraveler Jan 2018 #2
Oops. Short an' sweet. eom sprinkleeninow Jan 2018 #58
The problem is that we dont all love America equally Renew Deal Jan 2018 #4
In part you are right, but I feel it is more Perseus Jan 2018 #13
Bite Me nt DURHAM D Jan 2018 #5
Funny he should be promoting "equally" SHRED Jan 2018 #6
He should've kept quiet in re: those dammm emails sprinkleeninow Jan 2018 #43
He was being "blackmailed" by the NYPD and ghouliani Egnever Jan 2018 #51
Okay. I did 'copy'. I simply feel that if he had not come back out with this sprinkleeninow Jan 2018 #57
He needs apologize to women, & and start working to elect women. delisen Jan 2018 #7
A little too fucking late for that. Ain't it... nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2018 #8
"You say you feel like a failure," MGKrebs Jan 2018 #25
I don't care what he says until he comes clean and apologizes for what he did. And he needs to do it lunamagica Jan 2018 #9
It makes me mildly nauseous lagomorph777 Jan 2018 #10
Comey didn't just tilt the election from one direction to the other--he turned the entire race StevieM Jan 2018 #11
agreed NewJeffCT Jan 2018 #16
+1 uponit7771 Jan 2018 #21
Republicans WestIndianArchie Jan 2018 #12
This guy is confusing the shit out of me. Dave Starsky Jan 2018 #14
I think it's self-absolution gratuitous Jan 2018 #19
+1, I think he knows he screwed up bad ... the point swings post his memo are glaring uponit7771 Jan 2018 #22
It is only confusing if you believe he did it on his own. Egnever Jan 2018 #52
Hmmm. That would make sense, if true. Dave Starsky Jan 2018 #55
Lots of reporting on it Egnever Jan 2018 #56
Please describe a scenario that would have entailed if he kept sprinkleeninow Jan 2018 #59
I am somewhat dumbfounded it needs to be spelled out Egnever Jan 2018 #61
There was a choice. He should've researched the emails as sprinkleeninow Jan 2018 #62
I agree. He should have known. Dave Starsky Jan 2018 #64
That's what he did Egnever Jan 2018 #65
Ya know what. Toodles. You win. Bye. sprinkleeninow Jan 2018 #63
I think Comey and Colin Powell biographies Perseus Jan 2018 #15
My take on Comey askyagerz Jan 2018 #18
+1 uponit7771 Jan 2018 #23
+1 R B Garr Jan 2018 #34
who he THOUGHT was going to win was IRRELEVANT Skittles Jan 2018 #35
I completely disagree on number 1 lunamagica Jan 2018 #36
Because he knew Hillary stuff was bogus askyagerz Jan 2018 #39
He went along with the email ruse to help damage who he thought was going to be the seated POTUS. herding cats Jan 2018 #45
I see what you're saying but just don't see it askyagerz Jan 2018 #54
Yes. eom sprinkleeninow Jan 2018 #60
+1000 coeur_de_lion Jan 2018 #46
Republicans have to wake up and realize PatSeg Jan 2018 #20
You better think again about that nolabels Jan 2018 #37
Oh, I know Putin has no good will PatSeg Jan 2018 #41
Comey was blackmailed hard by a group within the NYPD. The_jackalope Jan 2018 #24
Sorry to burst your bubble rockfordfile Jan 2018 #26
So email Comey and tell him to give up. The_jackalope Jan 2018 #27
"They're coming after America" orangecrush Jan 2018 #28
You are absolutely correct, rockfordfile... VOX Jan 2018 #33
Before Comey's October surprise... Different Drummer Jan 2018 #29
I thought 538 had Clinton ahead till the polls closed orangecrush Jan 2018 #30
You're probably right--I may be mis-remembering. n/t Different Drummer Jan 2018 #32
If 538 Had Trump Ahead. . . ProfessorGAC Jan 2018 #48
Great Tweet by Comey Gothmog Jan 2018 #31
lotta anger in this thread towards comey questionseverything Jan 2018 #38
Quoting himself. Why? He's so full of himself. STILL glad he got fired. Tatiana Jan 2018 #40
Agree with that orangecrush Jan 2018 #53
Screw Comey. eom Tipperary Jan 2018 #42
I agree, but the US is no longer a shining city. ecstatic Jan 2018 #44
Surprised no Republican has enough spine to stand up for Americas Democracy, many just retire/quit. Sunlei Jan 2018 #47
Is he still investigating Ms. Clinton on his own time. NNadir Jan 2018 #49
Lordy, is he insufferable, or what? Gabi Hayes Jan 2018 #50

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
1. Sounds like he wants to
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 03:01 PM
Jan 2018

apologize for that e-mail fuck right before the presidential election in 2016. I'm still pissed. The USA would be in a better place right now if he had the guts.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. Our most dangerous enemies are inside. Comey's actions
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 05:29 PM
Jan 2018

need a special investigator, and it looks like he's still afraid that could happen with all this right wing focus on him.

We know that a series of decisions by the Director of the FBI threw the presidency and likely a bunch of other elections to the Republicans. It was looking as if Hillary and with her Democrats across the nation would win in a landslide. We were about to gain a majority in the senate, and possibly even in the house.

We need to know if Comey was acting alone, and why, and whether he was conspiring with other Americans. I find it as hard to believe he was actively conspiring with Russia as I find easy to believe that he was conspiring with the same kind of people that Scalia all too likely was.

However, Comey unquestionably knew that Putin's actions were designed to further the Republican Party's goals, and notably, those of its dark-money donors. And Comey took multiple well-documented actions that assisted them in achieving those goals.

Renew Deal

(81,873 posts)
4. The problem is that we dont all love America equally
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 03:05 PM
Jan 2018

There are many that want either destruction or power. Both of those factions are mostly concentrated in one party.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
13. In part you are right, but I feel it is more
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 05:14 PM
Jan 2018

of the criminal mentality that sees no consequences. These people are in for themselves, they don't see beyond their bank accounts and power, they don't understand that their kids, and their kid's kids,etc. will be affected negatively by what they are doing, they live in "the now".

It is like those people who, because they voted republican, feel they are immune to all the crap republicans pass as laws, all the good Obama left behind that benefited them and this administration is destroying, well they think that it will only affect their rivals, they fail to understand that there are no rivals on "the other side of the aisle", no concept that we are better off if we all work for the same goals.

They may have affection for the country where they live in, they just simply don't understand that actions do have consequences, and those consequences will be suffered by all.

To me, of all the bad things the man-child represents and is, that is the most dangerous characteristic of the man-child, he has zero understanding of consequences, and of course his empty heart.

sprinkleeninow

(20,260 posts)
43. He should've kept quiet in re: those dammm emails
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 02:17 AM
Jan 2018

and err on the side of refraining to broadcast them again. If wrong on that, (which he was in the end), then accept repercussions.

IOW, should've done the noble thing and taken the heat that would've come down the pike.

He majorly assisted in screwing up HRC.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
51. He was being "blackmailed" by the NYPD and ghouliani
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 01:08 PM
Jan 2018

Don't know why so many on this board want to try to pretend he just did it on his own volition. It was the ghouls NYPD buddies who were going to leak it and Comey got out in front of them trying to protect the FBI. Maybe not the best call but it was coming out with or without Comey.

"Hillary Clinton suggested on Monday that former FBI Director James Comey may have been pressured by former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani and others to reopen the bureau's investigation into her use of a private email server less than two weeks before the 2016 presidential election.

"He was under pressure from Rudy Giuliani, others — both former and current FBI officials," Cliton told Charlie Rose in an interview. "Giuliani announced two days before [Oct. 28] — 'something big is coming in two days.'"

The ghoul knew from his NYPD ties that they had the laptop with the emails. He was going to release it. Comey tried rightly or wrongly to get out in front of it so it did not look like the FBI was hiding information from the electorate.

May or may not have been the wrong call but with the information about to come out what choices did he have?

sprinkleeninow

(20,260 posts)
57. Okay. I did 'copy'. I simply feel that if he had not come back out with this
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:13 PM
Jan 2018

email business, the chips would've 'fallen where they may'. IOW, so be it.

20/20 hindsight on my part?

I am just so steamed how the proverbial rug was pulled out from under HRC and us!

I still maintain hope that no matter how ugly depressing this whole thing was/is, it will all be rectified soon.

I pray God this is not the end of the age.

💙?💪🗽

delisen

(6,044 posts)
7. He needs apologize to women, & and start working to elect women.
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 03:22 PM
Jan 2018

the man who literally hid "almost" behind the blues curtains.

As Comey might say "Oh Lordy."

MGKrebs

(8,138 posts)
25. "You say you feel like a failure,"
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 05:50 PM
Jan 2018

And wish you cold take it all back
Well honey I gotta tell you,
It's a little too late for that

Now you want somebody to be your buttercup,
Good luck finding your buttercup"

Lucinda Williams

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
9. I don't care what he says until he comes clean and apologizes for what he did. And he needs to do it
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 03:28 PM
Jan 2018

clearly, not with vague metaphors and euphemisms.

Until then, just SHUT UP, Comey!

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
10. It makes me mildly nauseous
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 03:31 PM
Jan 2018

to think Comey had such an impact on the election and has never apologized for it.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
11. Comey didn't just tilt the election from one direction to the other--he turned the entire race
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 03:38 PM
Jan 2018

upside down. His effect was so much more dramatic than the media acknowledges, even when they admit that he changed the outcome.

And that is just based on his October Surprise. It doesn't even take into account the extraordinary effects of his July press conference.

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
16. agreed
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 05:29 PM
Jan 2018

after the third debate, Clinton was pulling away in the polls. I think the Washington Post daily tracking poll finally had her over 50% and it was something like 51-38. Then, Comey letter released and BANG, Clinton tanked and was actually down something like 43-44 or 42-43 in just one day. it was around a 16 point swing. While she recovered and retook the lead in the coming days, it never approached that 13 point and rising total.

I honestly think that if the letter was never released, she would have continued the momentum and won by several points more than that 13 point 51-38 lead. If that happens, it likely means Senator Feingold in Wisconsin, Senator McGinty in PA and maybe one or two other seats in the senate and several more (D) seats in the House.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
14. This guy is confusing the shit out of me.
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 05:17 PM
Jan 2018

We wouldn't even be here if he hadn't done what he did. Now he's acting like a cheerleader for a rational democracy.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
19. I think it's self-absolution
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 05:33 PM
Jan 2018

If he runs around from the back, maybe people will think he's leading this parade and forget all about what he did. In short-attention span America, it's not a bad bet.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
52. It is only confusing if you believe he did it on his own.
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 01:12 PM
Jan 2018

when you understand that Giuliani had the information from his NYPD sources and that they were going to release it in an attempt to make it look like the FBI was covering up for Clinton it is not confusing at all.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
55. Hmmm. That would make sense, if true.
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 02:39 PM
Jan 2018

So he was the victim of what I like to call a "fecal duality". Two shitty choices.

sprinkleeninow

(20,260 posts)
59. Please describe a scenario that would have entailed if he kept
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:26 PM
Jan 2018

mum about the emails.

I ask in sincerity and not in the tone of a wise butt-smarty pants.😊

It's so hideously revolting now, how bad could that have been.

I said I would not harbor the passion of hatred towards republucres, but it's becoming very difficult.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
61. I am somewhat dumbfounded it needs to be spelled out
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:17 PM
Jan 2018

The ghoul got info from his NYPD pals that they had a laptop with emails from Clinton in it. Emails the FBI had yet to look through. He went on TV and said there was a bombshell coming.

If Comey had not done what he did at the time the ghoul and his cronies would have gone on the TV pushing the story as the FBI covering up for Clinton. Something that was already a narrative of theirs because of the clearing of her but Comey in the first place.

Those emails existence was coming out with or without Comey. He was stuck between facing the issue head on or allowing the Trump campaign to release the info and spinning it as the FBI running cover for Clinton.

There was no good choice here.

sprinkleeninow

(20,260 posts)
62. There was a choice. He should've researched the emails as
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:57 PM
Jan 2018

they ended up doing and found they were redundant.

He "CYA'd" himself and his agency and now is wriggling to show something along the lines of 'sorry about that'.

MB I'm thick. I like how I am.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
64. I agree. He should have known.
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 06:22 PM
Jan 2018

He needed to work off of the information he had at his very disposal. He didn't do that.

He made a huge mistake. But that's okay. We all make mistakes.

When you make a huge mistake like that, you don't keep chiming in every now and then on Twitter to all of us suffering the consequences of your fuckup about how things should be. You work on making the consequences better. You broke it. You fix it.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
15. I think Comey and Colin Powell biographies
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 05:21 PM
Jan 2018

will occupy the same catalog in history's bookshelf space, the one of "Those Who Changed History for the Worst".

They did not foresee any consequences coming out from their actions, and the devastation of those actions. We have not fully recovered from the one by Powell, and depending on what happens with Muller's investigation, it could be worst, but even if Muller is able to correct things, this one has already caused so much damage that undoing it will also be quite a task.

Small actions that have cause so much suffering and damage...if people could only "THINK BEFORE THEY ACT".

askyagerz

(776 posts)
18. My take on Comey
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 05:33 PM
Jan 2018

1. I really dont think he thought he was going to sway the election. I think he thought Hillary had it in the bag just like the rest of the country. If she would have won this would be a non issue and the fbi could still be quietly investing trump.

2. Pretty sure he realizes he was on the wrong side of history and regrets it enough that he is trying to hop back over the fence with these tweets.

3. The man knows a lot more then we do. Might even have a grasp of the end of the story already. His tweets are not so cryptic messages and I think some of the biggest proof so far that the whole trumpilada is toast.

4. Comey is still an asshole.

Skittles

(153,193 posts)
35. who he THOUGHT was going to win was IRRELEVANT
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 09:37 PM
Jan 2018

he held Hillary to a much higher standard just like all misogynists do

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
36. I completely disagree on number 1
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 09:58 PM
Jan 2018

Why would he do what he did ELEVEN days before the election if it wasn't to sway the election in trumps favor?

askyagerz

(776 posts)
39. Because he knew Hillary stuff was bogus
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 10:21 PM
Jan 2018

A nothingburger but the trump stuff was real and treasonous. He figures he will let it out in the name of transparency because he knew what was coming trumps way. That way when they would have come down on Trump he can point at the Hillary thing and say see fbi doesnt play favorites. Trumps base would throw a fit if they arrested trump with Hillary president. That's why I think this was just a fumbled attempt to smooth things over for the inevitable future.

herding cats

(19,568 posts)
45. He went along with the email ruse to help damage who he thought was going to be the seated POTUS.
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 03:21 AM
Jan 2018

He knew the FBI was investigating Russian interference in the election via Trump’s campaign at the time, and he said not one thing about it.

He has a hand in Trump’s win no matter what he wants to pretend or now portray. At best, he inadvertently acted as a Russian tool. Something anyone in his position should have been wise enough not to due, but he did it anyway. He assumed he was laying ground work to chop the future Democratic President off at the knees. He wanted her coming in as tainted as possible so they could manage her and use their own propaganda to help Republicans in 2018 and 2020.

Having said that, I welcome his voice in fighting Trump, but I know he’ll turn on Democrats again when Trump is in the rear view mirror. All the Never Trump Republicans will, and some are already poking their toe in that pool just one year in. I saw them trying to agitate and stir dissent over DACA in regards to Schumer. They’re still snakes. They’re the enemy of our enemy, but not our friends. At best they’re brief allies in a battle, but they are fighting their own internal war, but we’re not on the same side in the big war for how this country should be governed.

Comey’s legacy is forever tainted by his overreaching stupidity, and that gives me a small amount of comfort. I admit, I enjoyed watching him try and keep his head above water in the cesspool he helped create at first. When he finally sank at the hands of Trump the way he did, it was bittersweet since he was involved in the investigations into Trump. However, I still couldn’t trust him to be fully unbiased even with that, but he was all we had at the time.

I still despise his treatment of Hillary, and I smirk when I see things like this from him. He can’t erase his previous actions just because they had an outcome that wasn’t what he expected. He owns his actions and the damage he’s helped cause.

That’s my take on Comey.

askyagerz

(776 posts)
54. I see what you're saying but just don't see it
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 01:58 PM
Jan 2018

If he really wanted to hurt Hillarys presidency he would have waited until he definitely had the goods on her and hammered it with her after she was elected.
He knew this was nothing but would have became huge if Hillary had won, Trump was later arrested, Then it came out that they might of had something on Hillary right before the election but didn't let the public know and now she was the sitting president and her opponent was in jail.
Plus I seriously doubt comey just up did this on his own. I'm sure there was plenty of strategizing by some of the f.b.i.'s top people. If Trump was really bad news and they thought he was gonna lose anyway why would they risk their investigation by showing trump the cards they were holding?

PatSeg

(47,602 posts)
20. Republicans have to wake up and realize
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 05:40 PM
Jan 2018

that Russia will do to them, what they did to Democrats. They have no loyalty to an American political party. Meanwhile, Putin is probably collecting dirt on them too and he will do what is good for Russia.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
37. You better think again about that
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 10:15 PM
Jan 2018

If it were not for the US there would still be a viable USSR. Much of that crumbled boil happened with the help of the US and knowing this do you think there might be a little animosity there? They have good reason in trying to help us down a few pegs

PatSeg

(47,602 posts)
41. Oh, I know Putin has no good will
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 01:19 AM
Jan 2018

toward the U.S., but I don't think he cares which party he destroys, as long as it hurts the U.S. Republicans are fools to trust him.

rockfordfile

(8,704 posts)
26. Sorry to burst your bubble
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 06:06 PM
Jan 2018

But democracy is on life-support. A traitor in the White House and traitors in Congress. A fascist put on the Supreme Court. Little Moscow in Florida. That's just the start.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
33. You are absolutely correct, rockfordfile...
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 08:35 PM
Jan 2018

Which is why this whole fight over two completely different “realities” is a last-stand effort. If we don’t push back HARD, the (iron) curtain comes down. FIGHT BACK!

Different Drummer

(7,646 posts)
29. Before Comey's October surprise...
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 06:54 PM
Jan 2018

FiveThirtyEight had Clinton so far ahead that it was seemingly impossible for Trump to win. After Comey's bombshell, FiveThirtyEight had Trump so far ahead that it seemed impossible for Clinton to win. We all know how things turned out.

ProfessorGAC

(65,191 posts)
48. If 538 Had Trump Ahead. . .
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 10:51 AM
Jan 2018

. . .wouldn't they have been wrong? HRC had 3 million more votes and they were basing their prediction on popular vote not the minutia of EC folly and electors not doing what they actually swear to do as an elector. That was NOT something that could have been part of a statistical model.

So, if they did predict for "it", then they models were wrong.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
40. Quoting himself. Why? He's so full of himself. STILL glad he got fired.
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 10:39 PM
Jan 2018

I'll take Mueller over him all day, everyday.

I guess he tried his best, but he definitely doesn't have what it takes to handle this Russian espionage and American treason.

He's ultimately the straw that broke the camel's back and cost us the election.

ecstatic

(32,731 posts)
44. I agree, but the US is no longer a shining city.
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 02:25 AM
Jan 2018

We have a racist buffoon as president and GOP clowns that are pushing us closer to a dictatorship. Immigration as we know it is about to change. Only whites will be allowed in. The gaping holes and vulnerabilities in our Constitution and voting system are now exposed for the world to see. Nothing shiny about this place.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
47. Surprised no Republican has enough spine to stand up for Americas Democracy, many just retire/quit.
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 10:42 AM
Jan 2018

Whatever, at the least the quitters are gone from our government positions.

I expected MUCH more from McCain. What good does it do for Democracy & Americans future to take the dark side of "party" to his grave?

NNadir

(33,556 posts)
49. Is he still investigating Ms. Clinton on his own time.
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 12:51 PM
Jan 2018

It does seem that he sank his teeth into politics when he could have spared his country it's self destruction which is now underway.

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