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kentuck

(111,101 posts)
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 09:48 PM Jan 2018

Remember when Mueller raided Manafort's home early in the morning?

Trump is playing with fire.

He wants to negotiate. Are the questions going to be at the White House or somewhere else?

Mueller just might say, "Mr. Trump, you have been subpoenaed to appear before the Grand Jury".

There are no concessions from Mueller.

What does Trump do then?

Other than shit his pants?

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kentuck

(111,101 posts)
6. He would be in contempt of court, I would think?
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 09:57 PM
Jan 2018

As for criminal penalties, I would not know?

But, we are either a nation of laws, or we are not?

It would be a constitutional crisis. In my most humble opinion, the first step would be to arrest the two lawyers for Mr Trump for complicity to conspire against the laws of the United States of America.

Yonnie3

(17,444 posts)
3. Reading your post title gave me a vision of black FBI SUVs surrounding the White House ...
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 09:53 PM
Jan 2018

kicking in the door and then exiting with box after box of evidence.

One can dream ...

davekriss

(4,618 posts)
7. He ignores the subpoena
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 09:57 PM
Jan 2018

And then he fires Mueller. Why anyone would expect the rule of law at this point is beyond me.

Our constitutional recourse is impeachment. But I wouldn’t hold your breath, given this craven and seditious Congress.

I thought the Repubs stole the 2000 and 2004 elections yet Obama was elected. Twice. I guess I should remain hopeful that we regain the House and maybe Senate, but even there gerrymandering, voter suppression, likely tabulator hacking, and increased Russian interference, I don’t think the odds are good.

I’d love to have to eat my words!!

denbot

(9,900 posts)
10. We vote in the midterms in numbers to big to ignor
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 11:02 PM
Jan 2018

We get the house and then start with subpoenas to those in the house and senate who helped Shitler obstruct justice.

kentuck

(111,101 posts)
11. With the assumption that there would not be a constitutional crisis before election day?
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 11:34 PM
Jan 2018

He has been able to recruit Devin Nunes to "educate" all the other Republicans in the House. So that, because an impeachment begins in the House, there would be enough guaranteed votes behind Nunes to keep that from happening.

denbot

(9,900 posts)
14. A crisis of this magnitude wont be over in less than a year
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 03:23 AM
Jan 2018

It will be decided by the Supreme Court.

kentuck

(111,101 posts)
15. I think you may be right about the Supreme Court.
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 09:18 AM
Jan 2018

They may be involved after the Mueller decision, whatever it may be?

tableturner

(1,683 posts)
9. If he refuses while in office, the only move is for Congress to impeach.
Thu Jan 25, 2018, 11:00 PM
Jan 2018

There is no way the marshals or the FBI would descend on the White House and take Trump away. Separation of powers and judicial precedence would prevent that. If Trump were to break the law by refusing to testify, only Congress would have recourse via two possible courses of action: 1) Impeachment; or 2) Allow him to get away with it.

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