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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDavid Cay Johnston on MSNBC just mentioned Trump might try to use military to retain power
He thinks it's a real possibility.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,734 posts)I remember that there was a fair amount of concern that Nixon would refuse to turn over the secret WH tapes despite the court order, and that he would use the military to resist complying with the order. But even Nixon had a few shreds of respect for the institutions of the government, while Trump seems to have none.
lapfog_1
(29,205 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)bdamomma
(63,875 posts)Good that he is out of the country now, he's probably over the top now. tRump is very unpredictable which could be a very dangerous thing.
dchill
(38,505 posts)Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)dchill
(38,505 posts)Jeffy is recused, remember?
leftstreet
(36,109 posts)I don't know why it keeps coming up
FSogol
(45,488 posts)It would make it more believable.
scheming daemons
(25,487 posts)They'd resist the orders.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)The US is probably closer to a coup with trump in office than ever before in history.
Freethinker65
(10,024 posts)brooklynite
(94,597 posts)And why is this speculation any less silly than what a Fox News commentator would say?
JI7
(89,252 posts)brooklynite
(94,597 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)It happen if they had to subpoena records from the WH?
Basically everyone was explaining how it went down w Nixon and what various scenarios could happen if Trump was resisting the processes of our institutions. Basically to the point of not letting anyone on WH grounds. So it was just one of many comments speculating on all possibilities.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)If you dont know who he is.....why are you here???
seriesly
Try a little googling
Holy LORDY!
Sad!
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)Next, try
Trump casino Johnston
So easy!
You can find out all by yourself!
Then try the Panama Papers
Then try dcreport.org
Its not hard
You can do it!
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)As the other poster says, he probably knows more about hair shitlers finances than anyone
Certainly more than T himself
elleng
(130,974 posts)eleny
(46,166 posts)Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)Ever try typing while snorting?
Made my day!
eleny
(46,166 posts)Google "Site Search" is on every DU page.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)how did you pose your inq?
I is not gud at that
eleny
(46,166 posts)My search was the DU username and David Cay J's full name and it popped up in the list.
JI7
(89,252 posts)lol
I mean OMG...That is hilarious!
bdamomma
(63,875 posts)has known tRump for over 27 yrs, do a goggle search on him. You will be quite surprised what he knows about Donald.
MFM008
(19,816 posts)He write 2 books on the maggot?
I'd rather study the ebola virus....
DCJ is a prof.
He is also a journalist, and has written a book about Trump (worth reading).
He's also written a book about what Republicans are doing, the title is something like It's Worse than you Think. I haven't read that yet.
He was also talking about a potential involvement with Russians during the campaign.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)Theorists.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,501 posts)heavens man!!
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10028792064
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,862 posts)who writes mostly about tax and economic issues. He has a very long track record in this area. He's not a celebrity journalist, just one who is in the trenches covering this stuff.
His book Free Lunch: How the Wealthiest Americans Enrich Themselves at Government Expense and Stick You With The Bill came out in 2007 and was scary enough back then.
I most recently heard him interviewed by Amy Goodman. Her show Democracy Now is one I wish everyone here would watch or listen to. i wake up to her every morning.
I'd bet that he is generally the smartest man in any room that he's in.
TomSlick
(11,100 posts)Military officers' oath is to the constitution. That oath - for want of a better word - trumps the duty to obedience to the President. Military officers are taught from their earliest days they have a duty to disobey illegal orders - that obedience to orders is the "Nuremberg defense" and the Nuremberg defendants were hanged. After nearly thirty years of duty as an Army JAG, I know the lawyers would be screaming bloody murder threatening prosecution for sedition (Article 94, UCMJ).
I have no reason to believe that the military would participate in a coup d'etat.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)pray tell?
Seems like theyd be good Germans, in the traditional sense, Nein?
TomSlick
(11,100 posts)However, lying for the boss is a fundamentally different thing than an armed insurrection. If the US military takes part in a coup d'etat, my disappointment will be the least of our problems. Nevertheless, I see no reason to believe that any such order would be seriously considered. If some commander marched on DC, every other commander in the area would be obliged by the sedition provisions of the UCMJ to intervene.
There are a host of things to worry about these days. This one is way down the list.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)Doing anything
Do you think the Germans thought Hitler would turn out like he did?
TomSlick
(11,100 posts)It was all laid-out very clearly in Mein Kampf.
The disappointing bit from that story is that the Wehrmact succumbed and pledged its loyalty to Hitler personalty. I just don't believe the US military would go down that road. US soldiers are not nearly so compliant as pre-WWII German soldiers and they teach history at West Point.
jalan48
(13,870 posts)What would we do about it?
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)He's going to call on his crazy base to defend him. Hopefully the military will be on our side.
bdamomma
(63,875 posts)he is a demented man and his base is 36% with guns.
standingtall
(2,785 posts)to retain power and anyone who thinks he wouldn't isn't paying attention. Thankfully I doubt the military would be on board with it.
FSogol
(45,488 posts)The military ignored him.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)Lint Head
(15,064 posts)MFM008
(19,816 posts).......
LudwigPastorius
(9,155 posts)tell Trump to get fucked.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)doc03
(35,346 posts)MFM008
(19,816 posts)I can think of about 3...
defacto7
(13,485 posts)this is not even on my list.
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Lars39
(26,109 posts)Trumps WH photo op with all the generals and spouses. Was he trying to cement their loyalty to him?
Vinca
(50,278 posts)Dreamer Tatum
(10,926 posts)snowybirdie
(5,229 posts)He wrote a book about trumpy years ago and tried to capitalize on his "insight" for years. Only guest I saw that Rachel had to calm down. She did it politely, but he was going off the rails about trumpy's one page leaked tax return
still_one
(92,219 posts)Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)Do some reading on this thread alone, for starters
Hes one of the few journalists currently worthy of the term, and was simply answering the question put to him contextually
JFC
Jumpstart for the ignorant:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2017/03/15/david-cay-johnston/99202670/
Doesnt even mention his key role in the panama Papers
JFC
still_one
(92,219 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)lark
(23,105 posts)The military leaders appointed by him are loyalists to him and not our country and they would back him, but would the ordinary rank and file officer and service person follow the treasonous anti-American self protecting orders to hurt other Americans or destroy institutions? That's the real question.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,862 posts)but I'm hoping he's completely wrong about this.
I can see Trump attempting to do so, but I don't see him pulling it off. I think our military is far too smart to allow it.