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milestogo

(16,829 posts)
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 01:06 AM Jan 2018

The Larry Nassar story is just sickening.

So many girls being abused over a period of years. If 150 came forward, there were probably 500 who didn't.

The perpetrator was protected by colleagues, USA gymnastics, and Michigan State University (edited to correct).

Its not just that Larry Nassar was a monster, but that trusted institutions hid his crimes so well that it took 150 victims to testify.

There will be more.

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mn9driver

(4,426 posts)
1. Not the University of Michigan. Michigan State University.
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 01:14 AM
Jan 2018

Their partnership with USA Gymnastics will not survive this. And it shouldn’t.

This is a story about the elite level of an entire sport being taken over by people with no souls. Gymnastics in this country may never recover. And that’s probably a good thing.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
5. And the pain will remain for decades.
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 01:54 AM
Jan 2018

How many Michigan State Officials will resign? Hundreds of Lawsuits to come . Is this the Tip of the Berg,knowing of young athletes who were striving to be or were invited to Olympic Camps,my guess this is not the end.

Sucha NastyWoman

(2,749 posts)
7. It wasnt just elite level gymnasts who were his victims
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 02:50 AM
Jan 2018

Many of the gymnasts were just in recreational classes.

My daughter went to Karolyi's for years and for most of that time was in a group of gymnasts showing promise to progress to the upper levels. We also spent time at their camp in New Waverly, though she never stayed overnight there and I was always present. Mostly she was just there to watch competitions, and a few times to compete. I am confident that she never was alone with any adult there without other adults able to observe what was going on. And fortunately, she never visited Larry Nassar.

But I am really sickened by this story, because I have my own "me too" stories involving sexual abuse as a child at the hands of adults.

I dont know how the Karolyi's could not have been aware of this and I think that part of the story hasn't really come out yet.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
4. Ddisgustingly, the reaction of several men, including male leftie journalists, to the sentencing...
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 01:48 AM
Jan 2018

...was to tone police the judge! Matt Yglesias, Johnathan Chait, et. al., felt that when faced with a guy who raped and molested more than 150 girls, some as young as 6 years old, the right thing to do was to accuse the judge of "grandstanding", and of "leaving them cold".

I guess I shouldn't be surprised, these were the same journalists who showed their misogyny by hounding Hillary Clinton, but as someone I read on twitter said, you would have thought that we on the left could have all agreed on cheering on a judge that let victims speak, and who showed appropriate contempt for a serial rapist and molester that claimed his victims were "women scorned". But for some men, deflecting from a man, be he ever so much a monster, to excoriate a woman is par for the course.

And that, milestogo, is why nothing will be done about his colleagues, USA Gymnastics and Michigan State University. Too many men feel that this piece of excrement, who had pled guilty to rape and molestation and who had already been sentenced to 60 years in jail for possession of child pornography, was treated too harshly by his female judge. In light of that, there's nothing to be done about those around him who let him keep on raping that wouldn't be considered gross miscarriage of justice by too many.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
8. Bill Plaschke of the LA Times ripped Nasser and every single one of his enablers a new one...
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 03:07 AM
Jan 2018

I can't remember the other male sports journalist who did the same yesterday, but they were both adamant in demanding to know why ANYone associated with this crime still had a job. They said it was far worse in scope than the Joe Paterno scandal, and that the entire business needed to be cleaned from top to bottom and simply started over from scratch.

And I note this evening that Nasser is not the only one gone from his position.

ProfessorGAC

(65,061 posts)
12. That's Pretty Much The Tone I Heard Too
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 08:48 AM
Jan 2018

I wish the judge hadn't said "death warrant". The rest of her sentencing statement was powerful. That one phrase, i believe, diluted much of the rest of her statement a bit, which is a shame, because everything else she said was spot on.

The guy is a monster who got what he deserved.

obamanut2012

(26,080 posts)
10. And then Deadspin taking it from there
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 08:43 AM
Jan 2018

The Indy Star and Deadspin have been the only ones to cover this in continued depth only the last week. Deadspin especially -- their coverage has been outstanding.

Major props to the Star for believing the woman who contacted them.

IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
11. This week, two monsters went down. In the US, Nassar, and in Colombia
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 08:45 AM
Jan 2018

a dude known as "Lobo Feroz", who raped and produced child porn with more than 500 kids, aged 1 to 14.

doodsaq

(120 posts)
13. Olympic gymnastics always gave me a creepy vibe.
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 09:58 AM
Jan 2018

Sort of like little girl beauty pageants (which, by the way, should be banned outright. Sick, sick people.). These poor girls are put on public display and asked to go into all sorts of contorted positions in leotards, and then people wonder why it's a pedophile's playground. On top of that, they are surrounded by powerful adults and obsessive parents who demand obedience and push these girls to the limits "no matter what".

Now my suspicions are confirmed.

I shudder to think what other gymnasts are going through in places like Russia, Romania, etc.

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