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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDid you know that deaths from opioid overdoses fell 25% in states that
legalized weed. Just saw that on GEM$NBComcast.
https://drugabuse.com/legalizing-marijuana-decreases-fatal-opiate-overdoses/
Getting Down to the Numbers
Researchers looked at medical marijuana laws and death certificate data in all 50 states between the years of 1999 and 2010. During that time, only 13 states had medical marijuana laws in place. Researchers quickly noticed that the rates of fatal opioid overdoses were significantly lower in states that had legalized medical marijuana. In 2010 alone, states with legalized medical marijuana saw approximately 1,700 fewer opiate-related overdose deaths.
We found there was about a 25 percent lower rate of prescription painkiller overdose deaths on average after implementation of a medical marijuana law, lead study author Dr. Marcus Bachhuber said.
Marijuana and Chronic Pain
About 60 percent of the nations fatal opioid overdoses occur among patients who have legitimate prescriptions for their medications. In states where medical marijuana is legal, however, a legitimate opiate user is able to significantly decrease his or her dosage, making overdose less likely.
Several articles here
https://www.google.com/search?q=deaths+from+opiod+overdoses+declined+by+25%25+in+states+that+legalizzed+marijuana&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&dcr=0&ei=YkBrWrWaMbL-8AfYx5ywCw
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)A step in the right direction.
malaise
(269,054 posts)Jeff Sessions
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)CentralMass
(15,265 posts)malaise
(269,054 posts)rurallib
(62,423 posts)are the big groups that have been fighting pot legalization for years.
https://www.republicreport.org/2012/marijuana-lobby-illegal/
BigmanPigman
(51,609 posts)getagrip_already
(14,764 posts)you can be sure they are heavy donors.
Faux pas
(14,681 posts)blm
(113,065 posts).
SergeStorms
(19,201 posts)a nice couch-lock Indica, high in CBDs, than any opioid on the planet. No one has ever died from an over-dose on pot.
withoutapaddle
(263 posts)Backwoodsrider
(764 posts)maybe we have new numbers from the other states who now have legal MJ...
malaise
(269,054 posts)Backwoodsrider
(764 posts)coffee table reading
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)Even heroin/fetanyl using only Kratom.
malaise
(269,054 posts)Never heard of it.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)And there are many different strains that help with different ailments. Opiod Withdrawal, anxiety, deppresion and pain relief are among it's most popular uses
malaise
(269,054 posts)I learn something new here daily
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)Stryst
(714 posts)Workers there traditionally chewed the leaves (which I can't imagine, as the stuff is incredibly bitter) to ease the pains of heavy manual labor.
It's weird stuff. Hits both your opiate receptors and your caffeine receptors at once.
panader0
(25,816 posts)He was on some opioids but was cut off when they found alcohol in his system.
He bought some kratom but is afraid to take it. He's giving it to me. I'll report
later on it's effects.....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitragyna_speciosa
malaise
(269,054 posts)Thanks
Stryst
(714 posts)Kratom is kind of like taking mushrooms; just about when you feel yourself start to get high, you're going to throw up. And have a chaser ready, because the "tea" is going to be one of the most bitter things you've ever tasted.
Crunchy Frog
(26,587 posts)I find it can be helpful with my anxiety issues. It's really not scary at all, and I hope your friend will give it a shot. Many people with chronic pain find it a godsend. This is a good place to find more in depth information. https://www.reddit.com/r/kratom/
Upthevibe
(8,053 posts)I have fibromyalgia and haven't had to take ANY medication since I discovered Kratom. In 2016, the DEA was looking to make Kratom illegal. Then, in 2017, they laid off. I'm not sure where things stand right now. One of the 20/20 type shows had a segment about how much it's helped with the Opioid crisis for those who know about it and can get it. Of course there are pros and cons - IMHO, the cons being that it cuts into the pharmaceutical company profits....
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Very similar to the way opioids are ... it essentially IS a type of opioid (one of the active alkaloids in the plant is) though from what I understand withdrawals are milder because it's not a strong stimulator of the receptors.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)To them, these are sub-human druggies, and they deserve to die. (Nevermind that the opioid problem is hitting THEM hard. They don't see the cognitive dissonance, and they'll eat their own in a heartbeat.)
They are also unable to recognize blatant handouts to the prison and pharmaceutical industries.
malchickiwick
(1,474 posts)(I'm a HUGE supporter of mmj and the benefits of cannabis over big-pharma; thanks!!)
malaise
(269,054 posts)PatSeg
(47,501 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,007 posts)American puritans have their collective heads up their nether anatomies.
Led by Jeff Sessions. MAGA by returning to Reefer Madness hysterical drug prohibition.
MarvinGardens
(779 posts)leanforward
(1,076 posts)Public health clinics. Good clean help to assuage your feelings, likewise registers you for the need for help.
I'm tired of having peoples lives ruined forever for a period of life when they went ape . . .
No incarceration. These folks need help, not destruction. Besides, let's reduce the black market on drugs.
Thanks for the info/data on the states that have legalized medical mj. Speaks volumes.
rurallib
(62,423 posts)Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)that I would see legalization for Medical Purposes at least before I "catch the train"....I never did enjoy smoking it that much but I sure did enjoy digesting it....and I believe it would help with my Golden Years Chronic Pain....If not for grand kids I would move!
malaise
(269,054 posts)I was looking for Plan at the end
eppur_se_muova
(36,269 posts)Of course it was legal weed that did it.
MJ has been used for pain relief for centuries longer than synthetic opioids, with no truly deleterious side effects from moderate use, especially before the new, more potent strains.
malaise
(269,054 posts)and not one had deleterious side effects. Some get the munchies, some sleep and some carry on as usual.
Most do not drive after using weed.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)However it is completely useless in my experience for acute/severe pain ... if you need a root canal and have an infected tooth, or a real bad injury, or inflamed appendix, that kind of thing ... you need the REAL dope. MMJ won't cut it.
Also there's not really much difference between synthetic and non-synthetic when it comes to opioids. I mean each drug is slightly different but it's a fairly meaningless distinction being 'synthetic' or not ... the most popular class of them are called semi-synthetic which includes hydro and oxycodone and hydro and oxymorphone, as well as the treatment drug Buprenorphine.
In truth unless you're using morphine or codeine, or drinking poppy tea ... if you're using an opioid, it is to SOME degree 'synthetic' ... the difference in the two terms comes down to whether the particular drug actually requires beginning the process with morphine/codeine (the opiates in the plant itself) ... or whether was created with no actual 'plant product'.
Heroin is considered non-synthetic because it's made direct from morphine via a very simple chemical reaction to create diacetylmorphine, the chemical name for Heroin.
Hydrocodone is a semi-synthetic because while it starts with plant product (codeine I think, or maybe thebaine, another alkaloid of the poppy), it requires a lengthy and complex reaction process.
cilla4progress
(24,736 posts)kidney stone laser surgery. He much preferred it to the opiates they prescribed him; less groggy, more effective, non-constipating!
BobTheSubgenius
(11,564 posts)I actually kind of miss it, recreationally, but only as nostalgia. About 25-30 years ago, it became so strong that it wasn't enjoyable for me - I noticed that every time, I was wondering "When is this going to be over?" and realized it was just a habit.
I would absolutely find a way if my choice was that or oxy et al, though. I watched two of my friends struggle with it, were fortunate to recognize the problem and do something about it before it was too late and ruined their lives.
Sadly, about 2 years later, one of them was absolutely ravaged by undiagnosed cancer and died, probably addicted....but at that point, who cares?
flotsam
(3,268 posts)" The ability to use marijuana legally in Colorado has reportedly resulted in a positive side-effect: a decrease in the number of fatal opioid overdoses in the state.
According to a new study by the American Journal of Public Health, the number of overdose deaths have fallen by more than 6 percent since the state legalized recreational pot in 2014."
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2017/10/17/opioid-crisis-deaths-legal-marijuana/
malaise
(269,054 posts)Clearly this works
spanone
(135,844 posts)malaise
(269,054 posts)is making money. Some folks don't care about people - just money.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)raven mad
(4,940 posts)burrowowl
(17,641 posts)Why Sessions backed by big pharma, liquor industries, gun industry (arm cops to kill stoners) etc. want to get rid of pot.