However, sadly, I don’t think Bill’s lasting legacy helped her any. Particularly as a woman. Tone deaf.

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I did not want to see him hanging around the WH again.

here. I don't think he helped. Despite his economic strengths and other positive qualities, his treatment if women simply canceled it all out. Notwithstanding some of it may have been "consensual."

Anybody hold Ford responsible for Betty’s alcoholism? Of course not.

otherwise we will continue to lose c lose elections

It makes us look STUPID and it costs us elections! If Sec Clinton or her surrogates had mentioned Melania Trump's soft porn movie career or DJT's numerous affairs and intimated about his scuzzy history of money laundering for the Mafia and the Russians, some of these Trump nuts may have sat out the 2016 election...

and if there isn't anything on your opponant then do like the repukes do, make shit up

Same as with athletes! If everyone knows team B is doping and there is no one to stop them, should team A do nothing and continue to be creamed by team B?

People voted for him in spite of all that. The poll showing that 70 percent of evangelicals were willing to give his multiple passes because he supported their agenda needs to be considered. It might explain how his base was not only not going to vote for him, but was probably energized to do so "to take back America".

It might well have been that the supposedly originally planned positive close to the campaign speaking of what we will do and defining Clinton positively might have energized more of our base than the attacks on Trump. In retrospect, it might have been that countering the negative images of Clinton by familiar positive images of this serious, competent woman might have helped get out some of those disheartened by the campaign who had negate views of both.

Why is this even on !?!?

and shut her pie hole. She isn't helping when she does this "both sides do it" crap. She's as bad a Chuck Todd - can't watch or listen to either of them.

Them

It’s what she’s paid to do

hating Hillary as much as trump.

it is ridiculous. She’s one of the worst talking heads on msnbc. Half the time she can’t get a sentence out of her mouth without screwing it up.

Burngazli.

Will Andrea go into dept about how HRC handled it? No. He had to submit to counseling, rehab, et al.

.... that part and going over Weistein crap !!

WTF !?!?

Again, no excuses for it but right now pillory Hillary is a RW Party game and they’ll run with it as if she’d done it herself.

Trump?

Bad stuff happens to orange of don and the rethugs, they drag out Hills or Obama. This is dumb.

And NDAs?

What the hell is going on here? What’s the point?

The issue with the other people is there was ... NO ... action taken at all!!!

This is more of the M$M conflating complaints and punishments ... this isn't breaking news this is some screwed up stuff

Jesus fucking christ. This is about an event in 2008. How is it more important than the so-called president of the United States about to be indicted?

... action against the guy is somehow breaking news for MSNBC ?!!?

Something bigger is coming down the pike

Haven't heard a word about it since she went off the air.

They realize that they are losing a majority of the people in this country and they think Clinton basing is going to save them. It won't.

consistently to defeat Hillary. It's also personal, not just political.

She and Sally Quinn belong to the same A-list circle all ambitious people in DC are eager to have entree to, including journalists. Long before Hillary arrived in DC as the new first lady, they were chortling over and spreading vicious stories about her, as vulgar and unprincipled as any lowlifes doing the same when the stories arrived as emails in the rest of the nation. But when first lady Hillary, knowing this, turned down an invitation to dinner at Quinn's, their hostility became a vendetta that continues to this day.

You know, there's no honorable or even respectable-appearing ground to back up to for people who've behaved this way for decades, even if they were capable of wanting to.

You may have noticed at the Democratic convention that Andrea behaved as if she was ill and might collapse. She's done a lot of silly acting out a bunch of times over the years, like when Hillary was elected to the Senate, but this time she was so weak and bent that I wondered if she could be genuinely ill and need to be in the hospital. Nope, just the usual malice masquerading as despair.

Andrea is a right wing tool. Her ratings must suck but alas, MSNBC must make it balance

and opened her segment with "Explosive Allegations against Hillary Clinton!"

Sigh. I'm so fed up with this nonsense, even by left-leaning networks. Trump and GOP are getting away with treason, and MSNBC of all places is whining about an 8 year old story on a Clinton staffer.

I'm just so exhausted from it all.

MSNBC often bends over backward to appear balanced and reports RW talking points. THIS however is utterly pointless.

... then they didn't do enough even though they took some action.

This is disgusting on part of MSNBC's part relative to Red Don's seemingly clear attempts at obstruction of justice

Mrs. Greenspan has had it in for Hillary since the beginning. I have no doubt she is a republican. Why MSNBC keeps her on (along with that horrible Hugh Hewitt) is beyond me. During the election every other word was "emails" or "browser".

and his countless cases of sexual harassment, molestation, rape, marital infidelity, and misogyny, then they can shut the hell up about what Hillary's campaign did or didn't do 10 years ago.

BTW, MSNBC, why the hell is creepy old womanizer Chris Matthews still on the air? Let's talk about YOUR sexual harassment policy!

He wanders, he can’t read, he asks inappropriate (not in the sexual sense) questions, he’s really gotten strange(r).

Both have been grasping at straws for bombshell breaking news to remain relevant and have trouble finding their words or are otherwise getting confused on air. MSNBC needs to either get them a hefty supply of Exelon patches or get them off-air jobs. And I'm saying that as a woman of "a certain age" myself.

This was released on purpose to protect Trump, and take away from the STEVE WYNN story about who is now the head of the RNC Finance Committee...

just bring up Hillary from 2008, (10 years ago) to compare to Steve Wynn of right now.

yes, they are all there. Andrea Mitchell, Chris Jansing, and, where, oh where, is Christen Welker.

...which is to say never.

Blundering, blunderbusses that have yet to move on and find a positive spin on Dems while finding a reason to bash Reps. I have no use of either of them.

Meanwhile trump....

ancient hatred of Hillary Clinton. Fuck her AND Chris Jansing!

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He's always good for a laugh!

so put on your bullshit goggles. It's ON!

always has been, always will be. She also married to Alan Greenspan a dried up ass shit toadie from the Reagan Bush years

according to a NYT article.

The man was punished, including pay forfeiture, but not fired.
that was in campaign 2008 and according to attorney, due process was followed.

In campaign 2016 the man was hired by a related organization, and was apparently fired for a separate offense.

I found the NYT article to be a bit snarky; not straightforward and seemed to have an agenda-other than news reporting .

If there is a written procedure for harassment, the company must follow it. It seems to me an ethical reporter would start there and ascertain whether the company followed the procedure.

The article though stated the campaign manager in 2008 wanted the man fired and Clinton did not fire him.



Over the years I have had less and less confidence in the NY Times-who can forget Judy Miller and her false war reporting. Yet it is not just the big stories - it is the smaller stories like this.

They did what was then considered the responsible thing.

They often leave out salient details that would make an article more balanced and less helpful to the right. Not sure why they're willing to "report" that way.

reason the Planet is dealing with this shithead bully in the wh

100% BULLSHIT

Except for the usual suspects...like Mitchell...no one cares.