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louis c

(8,652 posts)
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:00 PM Jan 2018

Melania has been staying at a D.C. hotel since Stormy Daniels scandal



Melania Trump has spent a number of nights at a posh D.C. hotel away from President Trump following allegations of a fling with porn star Stormy Daniels, White House sources told DailyMail.com.

The first lady opted for time away from her husband since news of a possible $130,000 payoff from the President's lawyer to Daniels to cover up an alleged tryst was first reported by The Wall Street Journal.

Then, last week, to add insult to injury, a celebrity magazine published a cringe-worthy 2011 interview with Daniels in which she talked about the alleged 2006 sexual encounter with the future president in a hotel room at a casino in Lake Tahoe, Nevada following a celebrity charity golf tournament.

'It's been upsetting and humiliating; her relationship with President Trump has become strained,' a White House source told DailyMail.com.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5304663/Melania-staying-hotel-Stormy-Daniels-scandal.html#ixzz55Jwv7ke0
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Melania has been staying at a D.C. hotel since Stormy Daniels scandal (Original Post) louis c Jan 2018 OP
Strained enough to have a chat with Mueller? nt Phoenix61 Jan 2018 #1
Yeah, well there's that old "can't testify against the spouse" rule... Wounded Bear Jan 2018 #11
She can if she wants to sunonmars Jan 2018 #14
She likely has more power now than she has ever had in this marriage. ehrnst Jan 2018 #55
She'll sell her power for a bigger divorce settlement. Ilsa Jan 2018 #59
No, Barron is staying at the White House without them ToxMarz Jan 2018 #77
LOL Ilsa Jan 2018 #96
That poor kid is staying there himself? I thought she was "so devoted" to him. catbyte Jan 2018 #151
he has an entire floor of trump tower all to himself....hes used to it... samnsara Jan 2018 #154
They're the sickest family in America. This picture has always creeped me out-- catbyte Jan 2018 #156
The law is, one can't be forced to testify against Phoenix61 Jan 2018 #17
Zactly, or a wife could never testify against an abusive husband VMA131Marine Jan 2018 #26
not quite azureblue Jan 2018 #135
The judge is more likely to tell Cheatin' Don, "You have to pay $xxx,xxx per month." LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2018 #153
She can't be "compelled". She still has free will. CanonRay Jan 2018 #140
There are actually 2 marital privileges involved LTG Jan 2018 #166
You can testify against your spouse Dorian Gray Jan 2018 #182
I doubt Trump lets her in on much underpants Jan 2018 #36
If she were smart (and I think she is) there would be many records available erronis Jan 2018 #43
I don't think he would tell her anything Phoenix61 Jan 2018 #48
I wonder if... TwistOneUp Jan 2018 #100
And her divorce attorney. This got has to be grounds to break any pre-nup that exists. brush Jan 2018 #58
Melania has no concience. Why would she ever sabotage her future $ worth? LiberalLovinLug Jan 2018 #97
Do you remember "Lying Eyes" by the Eagles? RainCaster Jan 2018 #131
So, she was alright Scarsdale Jan 2018 #145
You mean that she is not giving Trump a mulligan for his affair? Gothmog Jan 2018 #2
Those so-called "Christians" atreides1 Jan 2018 #5
Thank you for posting that True Blue American Jan 2018 #172
Those "so called christians" probably blame her and will say she was not being a proper wife. sunonmars Jan 2018 #8
Right. Men have urges after all..... JDC Jan 2018 #24
And she had just had a baby and wasn't back in shape mythology Jan 2018 #33
Otherwise known as "evanmulligan christians". jmbar2 Jan 2018 #87
"evanmulligan christians" - Good one! keithbvadu2 Jan 2018 #147
I'm a bit of a wet-behind-the-ears here. Is a mulligan a blow job? erronis Jan 2018 #49
Tony Perkins, the evangelical a-hole Docreed2003 Jan 2018 #56
A mulligan is golf's term for a do-over. Ilsa Jan 2018 #60
So trump is about to get a do-over and a new wife? Gothmog Jan 2018 #68
I'm sure he can find some greedy, power-hungry Ilsa Jan 2018 #69
The Official Rules of Golf say mulligans are not allowed... jmowreader Jan 2018 #99
Okay, so it isn't just for tee shots! LOL. Ilsa Jan 2018 #103
Probably not jmowreader Jan 2018 #105
Translation True Blue American Jan 2018 #173
I wouldnt call mulligans cheating jmowreader Jan 2018 #179
I think that this is a golfing term Gothmog Jan 2018 #67
Golf, and other games. forgotmylogin Jan 2018 #78
A mulligan is a do over with no penalty. robbob Jan 2018 #88
In more ways than... pbmus Jan 2018 #3
I don't believe this report leftynyc Jan 2018 #4
What's the difference? louis c Jan 2018 #12
Because the report is not true leftynyc Jan 2018 #13
So you decide if its true or not? Funny i didnt know you knew her personally. sunonmars Jan 2018 #15
Isn't respect for truth 90% of what differentiates Hortensis Jan 2018 #37
Liberace also successfully sued a tabloid for claiming he was gay Major Nikon Jan 2018 #155
Thank you, I feel the same way FakeNoose Jan 2018 #157
"Unseemly." "Higher purpose." Yes. :) Hortensis Jan 2018 #162
If you want to believe leftynyc Jan 2018 #110
There's no difference between Malaria and Stormy Daniels bathroommonkey76 Jan 2018 #46
When a woman goes leftynyc Jan 2018 #111
In Wolffs book - claimed Trump said it was a good idea to get a much younger wife because...... womanofthehills Jan 2018 #128
There's are differences and similarities Major Nikon Jan 2018 #149
Staying with parents?? Are they here? Might they be "chain migration" candidates? elfin Jan 2018 #94
They absolutely are chain migration leftynyc Jan 2018 #112
I thought her parents were living in the White House? dflprincess Jan 2018 #127
No, not in the leftynyc Jan 2018 #132
How did her parents make it to the US? LiberalFighter Jan 2018 #171
Chain migration leftynyc Jan 2018 #174
Nikki Haley proclaims to be an expert on the Trump marriage C_U_L8R Jan 2018 #6
I think she went to Davos... lapfog_1 Jan 2018 #30
Nikki has a history... IluvPitties Jan 2018 #70
They call her "Nookie Haley" in SC Algernon Moncrieff Jan 2018 #117
But Haley is too old for him and she is brown. Lucky Luciano Jan 2018 #85
She passes as white. IluvPitties Jan 2018 #86
While I'd love to believe this, this story needs a more credible source than the Daily Mail. Eugene Jan 2018 #7
Yeah but they clearly did a lot of research on this underpants Jan 2018 #42
+ 1 red dog 1 Jan 2018 #91
Not even a Trump hotel I bet.... Pachamama Jan 2018 #9
I wish Melania would pull a Martha Logan...... sunonmars Jan 2018 #10
Martha Mitchell?? karynnj Jan 2018 #35
BOINGGGGG!!!! longship Jan 2018 #71
Crazy Martha....wasn't so crazy after all.... Pachamama Jan 2018 #75
Diane Arbus? Gabi Hayes Jan 2018 #125
McCord says she was kidnapped Gabi Hayes Jan 2018 #126
DuZy! no_hypocrisy Jan 2018 #40
She has more privacy from donald by staying somewhere else. Ilsa Jan 2018 #62
for some strange reason barbtries Jan 2018 #16
Join the line malaise Jan 2018 #21
Or at least punched him in the stomach. louis-t Jan 2018 #25
Patent leather stiletto to the forehead. MontanaMama Jan 2018 #29
Maybe a throat punch PunksMom Jan 2018 #32
At least his stomach would be easier to hit than his....nevermind Maeve Jan 2018 #45
yup, judging by little fingers and too blown up an ego GetRidOfThem Jan 2018 #81
He hasn't seen that tiny little thing..... SergeStorms Jan 2018 #102
She'd never find her first again if she did that. nt tblue37 Jan 2018 #92
The first divorce in the White House? Bayard Jan 2018 #18
"Never, ever before, in the history of the presidency," says the DOTUS. nt Ilsa Jan 2018 #65
This? This where she's drawing the line? Really? Yavin4 Jan 2018 #19
what would she know about husbands who cheat on wives lol. nt msongs Jan 2018 #20
I know, right. Who could have predicted Donald Jerkoff Trump Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2018 #54
She's always been on the outside looking in Blue_Tires Jan 2018 #22
She's basically window dressing..... sunonmars Jan 2018 #23
Melania got what she bargained for ollie10 Jan 2018 #27
Like she didn't know what he was when she married him dflprincess Jan 2018 #28
Playing devils advocate here: GusBob Jan 2018 #31
"I could imagine that she has a very close circle of confidants, which is wise" BumRushDaShow Jan 2018 #34
So do we know if it was "chain migration" that brought them to the states? n/t mtngirl47 Jan 2018 #47
Helicopter parents and grandparents GusBob Jan 2018 #53
And that... TwistOneUp Jan 2018 #104
A close circle of confidants would be wise... BobTheSubgenius Jan 2018 #109
Sounds like it's not water under the bridge bucolic_frolic Jan 2018 #38
Yeah, I wonder if Franklin and the other shithead Ilsa Jan 2018 #66
LOL! 😂 Lucky Luciano Jan 2018 #39
Wherever she's staying (if it's not in the White House) gratuitous Jan 2018 #41
I read a couple of places that she was off to Florida for the Alice11111 Jan 2018 #51
Well... Mike Nelson Jan 2018 #44
Become strained?!? A HERETIC I AM Jan 2018 #50
Seeing that one could almost feel sorry for her... FailureToCommunicate Jan 2018 #82
Not a huge fan of Melania but seeing this is like a gut punch, every time. GreenEyedLefty Jan 2018 #136
I feel the same way. Also, Barron always looks sad/unhappy to me. Arkansas Granny Jan 2018 #144
It looks like Fatass turns and is making eye contact and Yay Us noises with Ivanka. BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2018 #152
He was certainly spending most of that time interacting with his daughter. A HERETIC I AM Jan 2018 #164
I disagree!!!!!!! BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2018 #168
LOL...I stand corrected! A HERETIC I AM Jan 2018 #169
I dunnoooo..... BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2018 #175
If this helps to destroy the Con - good malaise Jan 2018 #52
Rumor in DC was that Laura Bush was living at the Willard ehrnst Jan 2018 #57
where not a single person will recognize her. Uh-huh. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2018 #61
According to CNN, she's at Mar-a-Lago in Florida Kaleva Jan 2018 #63
do you ever wonder d_r Jan 2018 #118
Will Melania skip the State of The Union address? ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2018 #123
"It's been upsetting and humiliating; her relationship with President Trump has become strained" LudwigPastorius Jan 2018 #64
The relationship has never been good, but now the shame is greater for her. IluvPitties Jan 2018 #72
Daily Mail is a reliable source on DU now? irisblue Jan 2018 #73
She'll get caught on a camera unless she just holds up there and never leaves. lindysalsagal Jan 2018 #80
Media is reporting she is in Florida Kaleva Jan 2018 #95
Her lucky divorce lawyer. safeinOhio Jan 2018 #74
I would be shocked if she wasn't made to sign a prenuptial agreement that... LudwigPastorius Jan 2018 #114
except for safeinOhio Jan 2018 #115
she should put his ass out ! stonecutter357 Jan 2018 #76
What a treat it would be.... KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2018 #141
Are we paying for this staycay ? I know we are paying for the secret service lunasun Jan 2018 #79
Ever seen the movie "Dave"? TNNurse Jan 2018 #83
The WH is calling this story "False" DesertRat Jan 2018 #84
Everything they don't like is fake news. IluvPitties Jan 2018 #89
Yup. That's their m.o. DesertRat Jan 2018 #90
If it's a choice between believing the Daily Mail and "WH Officials" . . . . hatrack Jan 2018 #106
But they don't say which part is false mainer Jan 2018 #137
A buff Marine orangecrush Jan 2018 #93
So - Let me guess - we're footing the bill Ms. Toad Jan 2018 #98
Drumpf Is Back Now, And Will Put Melania In Her Place SoCalMusicLover Jan 2018 #101
The Daily Mail is not exactly a "credible source"....but I hope the story is true anyway. red dog 1 Jan 2018 #107
Daily Mail is a right-wing UK tabloid oberliner Jan 2018 #108
What does she care? She clearly can't stand the guy anyway. Neema Jan 2018 #113
No kidding. She knows he's a cheating asshole. Dave Starsky Jan 2018 #133
Hopefully by spilling her guts to Robert Mueller. Neema Jan 2018 #163
Who is paying her hotel bill? Generic Brad Jan 2018 #116
Maybe the SS has to have rooms in the hotel. Demtexan Jan 2018 #124
Didnt read thread. Anybody post this? Gabi Hayes Jan 2018 #119
Enjoyed that, watched the whole thing...thanks...n/t Liberal In Texas Jan 2018 #121
Everybody has seen her naked pictures. Demtexan Jan 2018 #120
why? it is all fake news, right? Takket Jan 2018 #122
why? she is no better than Stormy Skittles Jan 2018 #129
This. Tipperary Jan 2018 #146
Skittles kicks some ass. sarge43 Jan 2018 #148
She makes more money and has a shorter list of clients Major Nikon Jan 2018 #161
Exactly.. HipChick Jan 2018 #167
. WhoIsNumberNone Jan 2018 #130
2011 is when melania was spewing Birterism to Joy Behar.. Cha Jan 2018 #134
I was looking through Ivana Trump's new book at the library kskiska Jan 2018 #138
It was already strained, this just provides cover ecstatic Jan 2018 #139
Do you think she actually gives a shit? lillypaddle Jan 2018 #142
I hope she sues his ass for divorce, chop chop. Mc Mike Jan 2018 #143
I wonder what the early cash out option is in her pre-nup? TeamPooka Jan 2018 #150
Can she return herself to Slovenia? Orrex Jan 2018 #158
She should have known going in what kind of crap she would have to put up with. appleannie1943 Jan 2018 #159
melaina dawn5651 Jan 2018 #160
There is that old saw... 3catwoman3 Jan 2018 #178
I have a dream she stays at Mar-A-Lago and gets a restraining order against him Arazi Jan 2018 #165
What if Trump and Melania got divorced? Initech Jan 2018 #170
The problem with this story onenote Jan 2018 #176
Word has been quietly circulating for sometime... Historic NY Jan 2018 #177
My hunch is that her parents are also where she and Barron often stay wishstar Jan 2018 #181
According to the NYT, Melania was blindsided by payment to porn star Gothmog Jan 2018 #180

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
14. She can if she wants to
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:20 PM
Jan 2018

The non-defendant spouse holds this privilege; meaning he or she is the one who may invoke the privilege not to testify and it is ultimately his or her decision.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
55. She likely has more power now than she has ever had in this marriage.
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:37 PM
Jan 2018

That said, I'm sure there is more than one sheik ready to install her in a palace if she gave the word.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
59. She'll sell her power for a bigger divorce settlement.
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:41 PM
Jan 2018

I doubt she wants her son to see his dad go to prison.

I wonder if Barron is staying with her?

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
154. he has an entire floor of trump tower all to himself....hes used to it...
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 02:12 PM
Jan 2018

...I think he's in his own little world anyway..

catbyte

(34,403 posts)
156. They're the sickest family in America. This picture has always creeped me out--
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 02:35 PM
Jan 2018

what 8-year-old boy straddles his mother like that to take her picture? I guess it wouldn't be so creepy if there wasn't that incestuous undercurrent between Ivanka & SCROTUS. They put the "fun" in dysfunctional!

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Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
17. The law is, one can't be forced to testify against
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:26 PM
Jan 2018

a spouse. She is perfectly within her rights to voluteer to testify against him.

azureblue

(2,146 posts)
135. not quite
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 11:07 AM
Jan 2018

A spouse cannot be forced to testify, but they can most certainly volunteer to testify. Happens all the time. The question that Don should be asking himself is, "Is she going to turn on me and throw open the doors? Is she going to turn over our taxes to Mueller? Is she going to become the betrayed spouse seeking revenge?"

I am going to make a generalization: Slavic women don't put up with betrayal, money or no money. You get caught screwing around, your life is in danger.. And they can be very vengeful.

Don may have forced her to sign a prenup, but that went out the window. She is in a good position to sue for divorce, and, prenup or no, be given enough money for her and Baron to comfortable live out their days.

Now we get the the really scary part for Trump: If she does that, Trump will have to disclose his finances to determine alimony. And if he doesn't the judge will say, "OK then, I think you are hiding assets, so here is what I think you are worth. and you have to pay $xx per month. And if you don't, you will go to jail or forfeit your assets to make the payments. And you don't have any say in the matter." Then Trump's assets and finances become public record. And then we will find out how deep in the hole Don is to the Russian mob.

Mueller is one thing... A public divorce with disclosure is another and is far more likely to bring Don down.

153. The judge is more likely to tell Cheatin' Don, "You have to pay $xxx,xxx per month."
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 02:10 PM
Jan 2018

The divorced spouse is entitled to enough money each month to preserve her current lifestyle. I have a feeling Melania is high maintenance. Then there's Barron...

CanonRay

(14,104 posts)
140. She can't be "compelled". She still has free will.
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 11:42 AM
Jan 2018

but I'd guess he doesn't tell her shit...she's an ornament.

LTG

(216 posts)
166. There are actually 2 marital privileges involved
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 09:12 PM
Jan 2018

The first is the Testimonial Privilege, this privilege is held by the spouse whose testimony is being sought. As the holder of the privilege they can not be compelled to testify, but may choose to do so.

The second is the Communication Privilege. This Privilege is held by the defendant spouse. The witness spouse can not testify to anything communicated to them by act or action that was meant to be confidential. The defendant may waive the privilege, but the witness spouse is prevented if the privilege is not waived.

Whether or not the communication is in fact confidential is based on a number of factors and is a determination made by the judge.

ETA: The above applies in all criminal and some civil cases. This does not apply to any case where the spouses are opposing parties to the action, such as a divorce.

Dorian Gray

(13,496 posts)
182. You can testify against your spouse
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 10:52 PM
Jan 2018

You just can't be compelled to do so. But if she wants to... bombs aweigh.

erronis

(15,303 posts)
43. If she were smart (and I think she is) there would be many records available
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:24 PM
Jan 2018

Not just My Diary pen-and-ink but cloud-stored, encrypted, retrievable by trusted sources.

If she doesn't get her just desserts(?) from helping dump crash-n-burn, perhaps she can make another few millions bringing down some other bigger dicks.

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
48. I don't think he would tell her anything
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:27 PM
Jan 2018

out of a sense of companionship but you know how much he loves to brag. I think he's just stupid enough to brag to her how he knows Mueller will never get him because "fill in the blank."

TwistOneUp

(1,020 posts)
100. I wonder if...
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 07:20 PM
Jan 2018

All those years when he was selling real estate (spell that laundering money) he came home excited about "the latest big done deal", as in, "Today we sold a $5mm condo to <this oligarch> or to <that mobster> " etc. If she made a list, she's got the goods on him.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
97. Melania has no concience. Why would she ever sabotage her future $ worth?
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 07:02 PM
Jan 2018

She married him. She actually has stomached living with the asshole. Even #@*#ing the asshole. She has lived through all the sexual abuse and infidelity. The accusation that Trump fondled a woman while Melania was upstairs pregnant. Or that when he spewed his 'wisdom' to the entertainment show about grabbing p*ssy, they were just newly weds. And I'm sure there are plenty more that only she is aware of.

She sold her soul a long time ago, and has hardened herself to it obviously. Her demeanor with him in public shows she is well past the "strained" part. She obviously detests him already. Its not about that. Its that she is just as much a greedy #$*# as her husband, daughters, and sons. I think if anything, she is being paid off to stay quiet, and to continue the marriage scam until after Trump is out of office.

RainCaster

(10,884 posts)
131. Do you remember "Lying Eyes" by the Eagles?
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 04:09 AM
Jan 2018

That is her life and she needs to own it. No sorrow or sympathy from me.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
145. So, she was alright
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 12:10 PM
Jan 2018

with his actions until MONEY was exchanged? Did she think she would be the only paid "companion" he would ever have?

Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
2. You mean that she is not giving Trump a mulligan for his affair?
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:01 PM
Jan 2018

If the so-called christians can forgive, then why is she being difficult?

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
5. Those so-called "Christians"
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:06 PM
Jan 2018

Want her to show proper obedience to her husband...based on their twisted and delusional belief system!!!

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
172. Thank you for posting that
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 05:31 AM
Jan 2018

As a long time Christian I am nauseated at what Evangelicals have turned their brand of Religion into. They are driving a stake right into the ❤️ of their brand.

With all the powerful men losing their careers, some on the slightest word,yet Trump remains in the WhiteHouse.

You have so called Leaders like Tony Perkins and Franklin Graham making excuses,showing what they are, I hope this corrupted version is exposed and clear to most of the country.

Maybe we need this cleansing, but it is really sad what the quest for power has done.

I am off to a Church this morning that has moved in a new direction,following the footsteps of Jesus. They include inclusion and love. No,my way or the highway, but am honestly really depressed.

Is it going to end, or will those with no scruples at all win? Destroy our Country?

erronis

(15,303 posts)
49. I'm a bit of a wet-behind-the-ears here. Is a mulligan a blow job?
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:29 PM
Jan 2018

I mean why would his current betrothed be doing that after he is dicking around with others?

I am simple. Is this the christian method (vs. the missionary one)?

Do two wrongs make a righteous prick? How about an even very large number? Let's just say that dump sinned 2,167,352 times. Does that make it OK in the minds of the "deplorables"? How many times do they allow their spouses to sin without hitting them on the head with the frying pan?

Docreed2003

(16,863 posts)
56. Tony Perkins, the evangelical a-hole
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:37 PM
Jan 2018

Said that he would give Trump “a mulligan” over the Stormy Daniels affair when asked how he thought evangelicals should respond to this issue.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
60. A mulligan is golf's term for a do-over.
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:43 PM
Jan 2018

I'm not certain if it means you just put a new ball down and not count the last stroke, or if there is some other fine point to it.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
99. The Official Rules of Golf say mulligans are not allowed...
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 07:18 PM
Jan 2018

So, naturally, everyone who isn't in a tournament uses them. It's pretty much what you'd expect: if you make a bad shot, you yell "Mulligan!" before setting your new ball exactly where the old one was, and try it again.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
103. Okay, so it isn't just for tee shots! LOL.
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 07:29 PM
Jan 2018

Do golfers ever yell "mulligan!" at the bartender after tossing back a shot at the 19th Hole?

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
105. Probably not
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 07:33 PM
Jan 2018

Oh...many golfers do reserve them for tee shots, or say "one per hole," a certain number per round or whatever. They're only used in fun golf, so whatever you and your friends agree on is what goes.

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
179. I wouldnt call mulligans cheating
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 02:22 PM
Jan 2018

You can only play mulligans if everyone in your group agrees to play them. They’re more of a way to speed up the game and make it more fun.

Trump would enter the US Open and demand to play mulligans (they’re not allowed in tournaments) when no one else got mulligans just because it’s his own course and he isn’t a pro golfer. That would be cheating.

forgotmylogin

(7,530 posts)
78. Golf, and other games.
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 06:20 PM
Jan 2018

A "mulligan" is allowed in some games either informally or by rules when a player has a particularly bad stroke of luck. In card games, sometimes if the hand you are dealt is so bad you have no chance to play properly, you can mulligan and get a completely new hand. Sometimes, this is only allowed once per hole/round/session and is often by the grace and permission of the other players who wish to be sportsman-like. In golf, if you tee off and land in the water, you might be permitted to mulligan and hit again, possibly with a one-stroke penalty. Essentially "okay, that didn't count, now for real..."

robbob

(3,531 posts)
88. A mulligan is a do over with no penalty.
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 06:43 PM
Jan 2018

Only applies to friendly games and usually limited to once per round or one one the front and one on the back nine. Usually after a particularly horrible tee shot.

Re-taking a tee shot with a one stroke penalty is just part of the game. So if you plunk it into the water and decide you want to try again you just tee it up and now are shooting 3 from the tee.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
4. I don't believe this report
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:06 PM
Jan 2018

Not defending her or the degenerate she married but the word is she's been staying with her parents who live nearby. Can't blame her for being pissed her "beloved" banged a porn star without a condom a month after she bore him a child.

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
12. What's the difference?
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:18 PM
Jan 2018

If she's out of the White House and not attending functions with the Moron-in-Chief, the results are the same.

It will all be figured out shortly when either he goes to Florida or she comes home. if they don't end up in the same place at the same time, then we'll know.

In the mean time, it's not the gossip that matters to me, it's the added pressure on Donald Chump that I like. There is no doubt that something big is coming down just after the State of the Union. Indictments are imminent, that's why there is so much activity by the Repukes.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
37. Isn't respect for truth 90% of what differentiates
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:16 PM
Jan 2018

us from trumpsters and their GIGO mentalities?

This OP posted from DailyMail.com, you know. A tabloid, entertainment. Don't bother looking for how many awards they've won for excellence in journalism. The answer is none.
.
Btw, Melania sued DailyMail for claiming she'd been a prostitute -- and won. They settled the lawsuit privately, amount damages paid to her not known.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
155. Liberace also successfully sued a tabloid for claiming he was gay
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 02:30 PM
Jan 2018

Melania was an immigrant from a modest background who had nothing remotely close to a modeling income that could support paying for her lifestyle at the time. There's also no question that she was at least at some level a sex worker, given the material she was being paid to produce. There's also a cottage industry of Manhattan immigrant "models" who aren't really models, so it just isn't that big of a stretch to believe she was a working prostitute at some point. However, regardless of whether this was true or not, if the DailyMail couldn't prove it, they were leaving themselves open to a libel suit, much like Liberace in the 50's.

Like most tabloids, the DailyMail uses dubious sources and anything they print should be suspect, but it doesn't mean it isn't true either.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
157. Thank you, I feel the same way
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 02:37 PM
Jan 2018

It's unseemly for DU to engage in this gossip, and in any case it's none of our business.
We have a higher purpose here, and the Daily Mail is a rag.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
110. If you want to believe
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 08:24 PM
Jan 2018

London's version of the national enquirer, go right ahead. Here in NY, where Melania is from, the word is she's with her parents.

 

bathroommonkey76

(3,827 posts)
46. There's no difference between Malaria and Stormy Daniels
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:25 PM
Jan 2018

Both get paid hush money to keep quiet.

Malaria is basically a high-end mail-order bride. She's been in it for the money since day one.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
111. When a woman goes
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 08:28 PM
Jan 2018

into a marriage KNOWING he's a cheat, it's very difficult for me to muster up any sympathy AND she was/is a birthed It's Barron I feel sorry for. Not for me to say how she feels about Donnie, whether she loves him or not. I have no idea.

womanofthehills

(8,718 posts)
128. In Wolffs book - claimed Trump said it was a good idea to get a much younger wife because......
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 01:16 AM
Jan 2018

they get less upset when you cheat.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
149. There's are differences and similarities
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 01:29 PM
Jan 2018

Both either are or have been sex workers. I suppose you could argue one of the two is just better at it by virtue of getting paid more with a narrower list of clients.

elfin

(6,262 posts)
94. Staying with parents?? Are they here? Might they be "chain migration" candidates?
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 06:55 PM
Jan 2018

Are they on citizenship track? What length visas do they have? When do they expire?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
112. They absolutely are chain migration
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 08:30 PM
Jan 2018

Melania and her sister came here to work, became citizens and then their parents came. Now they want to shut the door for others. The whole thing makes me sick.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
132. No, not in the
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 05:40 AM
Jan 2018

White House but absolutely the beneficiaries of chain migration. Their daughters get citizenship and then they came over for same. THAT needs to be brought up every time chain migration comes out of any republican mouth.

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
30. I think she went to Davos...
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:01 PM
Jan 2018

and the rumor is that she is the person mentioned in "Fire and Fury" as being Trump's current flavor of the month and not Hope Hicks (who he just sexually harasses on a routine basis)

Lucky Luciano

(11,257 posts)
85. But Haley is too old for him and she is brown.
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 06:37 PM
Jan 2018

She is scum (though less psychotic than other thugs), but admittedly physically attractive. Not fuckface’s type though.

Eugene

(61,900 posts)
7. While I'd love to believe this, this story needs a more credible source than the Daily Mail.
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:15 PM
Jan 2018

Sorry.

longship

(40,416 posts)
71. BOINGGGGG!!!!
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:54 PM
Jan 2018

Yup! Remember Martha Mitchell? After all the crap that she was crazy, she apparently was telling the truth, and husband and former US Attorney General John Mitchell went to jail.

I remember it well.

Martha Mitchell and spouse:

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
62. She has more privacy from donald by staying somewhere else.
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:45 PM
Jan 2018

The staff at a trump hotel would likely report on her movements if don the con asked for the info.

barbtries

(28,799 posts)
16. for some strange reason
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:23 PM
Jan 2018

i got a big smile on my face when i read this.

it would be great if she just took him DOWN.

GetRidOfThem

(869 posts)
81. yup, judging by little fingers and too blown up an ego
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 06:24 PM
Jan 2018

that other target may be too hard to hit because of its little size...

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
102. He hasn't seen that tiny little thing.....
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 07:27 PM
Jan 2018

in about 25 years or so, except maybe in a wide-angle mirror. They say, "a smart man builds a shed over his tools", but when that shed is made from a super-abundance of white fat cells, eh..........not so much.

Yavin4

(35,442 posts)
19. This? This where she's drawing the line? Really?
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:30 PM
Jan 2018

She knew who she was marrying. No sympathy for her at all.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
22. She's always been on the outside looking in
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 04:45 PM
Jan 2018

and Donnie clearly prefers his daughter to be the de facto FLOTUS since she's younger, tighter and much easier on the eye...

dflprincess

(28,079 posts)
28. Like she didn't know what he was when she married him
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:00 PM
Jan 2018

And just what is their little spat costing the taxpayers in added security?

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
31. Playing devils advocate here:
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:02 PM
Jan 2018

Setting this article aside, it occurs to me that Melania seems to be immune from the rampant leaks that come out of the WH.

It seems to me she is either protective of herself, protected by others, immune to scandal, or respected in some fashion, all due to sympathy

I could imagine that she has a very close circle of confidants, which is wise

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
34. "I could imagine that she has a very close circle of confidants, which is wise"
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:11 PM
Jan 2018

Her parents.


Viktor Knavs and Amalija Knavs
Getty Images

Town & Country

10 Things to Know About Melania Trump's Parents, Viktor And Amalija Knavs

The first lady and her son have officially moved to Washington, D.C.—are Barron's grandparents joining them?

By Sam Dangremond
Jun 12, 2017
276

Yesterday, Melania and Barron Trump officially moved from Trump Tower in New York City to their new home, the White House. Melania's parents, Viktor Knavs, 73, and Amalija Knavs, 71, accompanied them on the trip and are expected to become familiar faces in the nation's capital. Here's what you should know about them.


1 They may or may not be living in the White House.

Barron is very close to grandparents, with whom he reportedly speaks Slovenian, and Politico described them as "hyperinvolved" in his life. While Politico also reported that Melania's parents will "become more familiar figures around the White House"—much the way Michelle Obama's mother Marian Robinson did when she moved into the presidential mansion—a White House spokeswoman said she could not confirm the outlet's claim, writing in an e-mail, "We don't comment on the first lady's parents, as they are private citizens and we want to respect that."

http://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/politics/g9968592/melania-trump-parents-amalija-knavs-viktor-knavs/


Her parents are basically the same age as her husband and I expect they are (especially now) very involved. It's just that the media probably doesn't really recognize or follow them if they are in and out.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
53. Helicopter parents and grandparents
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:36 PM
Jan 2018

Sounds like they are protective and keep their cards close to the vest

Very interesting. I imagine they know that someday this will all be over and the future of their daughter and grandson is important enough to keep guarded

TwistOneUp

(1,020 posts)
104. And that...
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 07:31 PM
Jan 2018

They will live nice, quiet, well looked-after lives with all that money Melania will get in the divorce.

There's nothing like a big cash settlement to "ease the burden of living" and take the pressure off...

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
109. A close circle of confidants would be wise...
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 08:00 PM
Jan 2018

...but I can't see Smallhands Magoo being very supportive of that. I have nothing to base this on, other than my *read* of him, but he seems very controlling, and "access" to his trophy seems like something he would control very closely.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
66. Yeah, I wonder if Franklin and the other shithead
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:49 PM
Jan 2018

will try to explain to her that she's being unreasonable? Please, Franklin, tweet about that.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
51. I read a couple of places that she was off to Florida for the
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:31 PM
Jan 2018

weekend, with Baron. I can't remember where I saw it...read too much. However, she wasn't going to Mar o Lago. I assume it was on a Trump private jet, but I don't know.

Mike Nelson

(9,959 posts)
44. Well...
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:24 PM
Jan 2018

...I don't believe the tone of the story. I'm sure she approved of the affair... still, she might take advantage of the incident to get away from her third lady duties for awhile!

Arkansas Granny

(31,518 posts)
144. I feel the same way. Also, Barron always looks sad/unhappy to me.
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 12:07 PM
Jan 2018

I don't recall seeing pictures of him smiling.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
152. It looks like Fatass turns and is making eye contact and Yay Us noises with Ivanka.
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 02:07 PM
Jan 2018

Then his head position shifts slightly and he is looking at Melania. And some one-word remark seems to come out of his ugly anus-y mouth, again judging by head and movement, just before he turns back to face us with that repulsive smarmy Pharma-Bro grin.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,370 posts)
164. He was certainly spending most of that time interacting with his daughter.
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 08:38 PM
Jan 2018

Not sure if I agree with your assessment of what, if anything he said to Melania. It almost looks like he could have mouthed a kiss. That would be enough to make any woman sad!

malaise

(269,054 posts)
52. If this helps to destroy the Con - good
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:34 PM
Jan 2018

On the other hand Melania went on TV to spread her husband's racist birther shit. She has also been less than honest re her early immigration status. And finally she married the shithole. As you make your bed, so shall you lie.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
57. Rumor in DC was that Laura Bush was living at the Willard
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:38 PM
Jan 2018

so she could smoke and talk to her friends.

Kaleva

(36,312 posts)
63. According to CNN, she's at Mar-a-Lago in Florida
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:46 PM
Jan 2018

"First lady Melania Trump's plane arrived in West Palm Beach, Florida, Thursday, the same week she cancelled her planned trip with her husband to Davos, Switzerland, at the last minute.
A law enforcement source confirmed to CNN the first lady was on the plane, and a motorcade was seen leaving the airport.
Earlier in the day, Trump emerged from the White House for an unannounced visit to the Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/25/politics/melania-trump-holocaust-museum/index.html

"

First lady Melania Trump has apparently made a trip to Palm Beach County while her husband is away at a world economic forum in Switzerland.

PHOTOS: Melania Trump through the years

A plane smaller than Air Force One with similar markings, usually used by the first lady, landed at Palm Beach International Airport on Thursday around 1:30 p.m. According to the Federal Aviation Administration, that plane is referred to Executive One Foxtrot when a member of the president’s family is aboard."

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/just-melania-trump-town-husband-switzerland/3p289KeIsqA8Iy4B6XX1lL/

d_r

(6,907 posts)
118. do you ever wonder
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 10:09 PM
Jan 2018

how much our kids are going to be paying in interest for these people paying themselves to stay in their own resorts?

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
123. Will Melania skip the State of The Union address?
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 12:16 AM
Jan 2018


President Obama used the STOU to edify and Michelle. Trump has yet to edify Melania.

LudwigPastorius

(9,155 posts)
64. "It's been upsetting and humiliating; her relationship with President Trump has become strained"
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:46 PM
Jan 2018

Oh, please...

She knew what he was when she married him.

Are the gold toilets worth the humiliation, Melania?

IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
72. The relationship has never been good, but now the shame is greater for her.
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 05:55 PM
Jan 2018

She's the First Lady of the US, subjected to the greatest humilliation since Hillary. Let's see what she does.

lindysalsagal

(20,692 posts)
80. She'll get caught on a camera unless she just holds up there and never leaves.
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 06:23 PM
Jan 2018

Which is hard to imagine. But, eventually, we'll get pics of her and know where she is.

You're right: The source matters.

safeinOhio

(32,688 posts)
74. Her lucky divorce lawyer.
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 06:06 PM
Jan 2018

With all of the hundreds of investigations into his finances, he won’t be able to hide one nickel from the court. She will get two and a half cents for every nickel they uncover.

LudwigPastorius

(9,155 posts)
114. I would be shocked if she wasn't made to sign a prenuptial agreement that...
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 08:49 PM
Jan 2018

limits the amount she could receive in the event of a divorce.

safeinOhio

(32,688 posts)
115. except for
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 08:54 PM
Jan 2018

A prenup can be invalidated entirely for any of five major reasons:

if it is shown to be fraudulent (Remember: A prenuptial agreement requires each spouse to make full disclosure of his/her assets and debt.),
if it was coerced, signed under duress or signed without mental capacity,

from forbes dot com

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
141. What a treat it would be....
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 11:47 AM
Jan 2018

to see Dirty Donald's clothes strewn about on the White House front lawn and his golf clubs thrown over the fence!

TNNurse

(6,927 posts)
83. Ever seen the movie "Dave"?
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 06:32 PM
Jan 2018

The first lady in it knows about her husband's affairs and the relationship looks very much like the one I suspect the Trumps have. Well, not really, the first lady in the movie is very active and issue focused. She gets stuff done.

Sigourney Weaver and Kevin Kline are wonderful in it, if you have not seen it

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
106. If it's a choice between believing the Daily Mail and "WH Officials" . . . .
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 07:38 PM
Jan 2018

I'll take the Daily Mail.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
137. But they don't say which part is false
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 11:36 AM
Jan 2018

And they aren't responding to queries from the Daily Mail's reporters.

The WH "it's all fake news!" response makes me think this is actually true.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
101. Drumpf Is Back Now, And Will Put Melania In Her Place
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 07:23 PM
Jan 2018

I have no doubt there will be a photo op of them together, holding hands, side by side. They can't let it look like she's pissed, and someone is going to give her a talking to.

red dog 1

(27,820 posts)
107. The Daily Mail is not exactly a "credible source"....but I hope the story is true anyway.
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 07:41 PM
Jan 2018

K&R, but the headline should read:
"Melania has 'allegedly' been staying at a D.C. hotel since Stormy Daniels scandal"

Also, The Daily Mail is wrong about the alleged Daniels payoff...it was alleged to be
"more than $130,000," not $300,000 as the Daily Mail reported.

Neema

(1,151 posts)
113. What does she care? She clearly can't stand the guy anyway.
Fri Jan 26, 2018, 08:34 PM
Jan 2018

Seems like just a good excuse to get out of doing anything resembling a First Lady's duties. Is this on the taxpayer's dime, I assume?

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
133. No kidding. She knows he's a cheating asshole.
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 05:57 AM
Jan 2018

She is, after all, the direct beneficiary of his caddish behavior, having been a chippy of his during one of his prior marriages.

I'm not interested until she gets fed up and decides to go all Carrie Underwood on him.

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
124. Maybe the SS has to have rooms in the hotel.
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 12:38 AM
Jan 2018

She better have put it her credit card.

I sure we are paying for it.

Cha

(297,321 posts)
134. 2011 is when melania was spewing Birterism to Joy Behar..
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 07:24 AM
Jan 2018


snip//

Melania Trump Supported Her Husband's Racist Birtherism Claims on TV

People need to stop talking about "freeing Melania."


https://www.teenvogue.com/story/melania-trump-supported-her-husbands-racist-birtherism-claims-on-tv

She makes me sick. Karma's a *****


kskiska

(27,045 posts)
138. I was looking through Ivana Trump's new book at the library
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 11:39 AM
Jan 2018

Ivana's mother lives part-time at Mar-a-Lago (and also in the Czech Republic). Even Ivana finds it strange that her mother lives with Donald and his latest wife, but it enables her to see her grandchildren. She had lived with them at Trump Tower, also.

ecstatic

(32,712 posts)
139. It was already strained, this just provides cover
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 11:42 AM
Jan 2018

and an opportunity to finally kick his fat ass to the curb. Good for her.

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
143. I hope she sues his ass for divorce, chop chop.
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 12:03 PM
Jan 2018

That would be the cherry on the sundae, to have her do that right now.

appleannie1943

(1,303 posts)
159. She should have known going in what kind of crap she would have to put up with.
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 02:41 PM
Jan 2018

And it isn't like he hasn't bragged about his encounters their whole marriage. Some things aren't worth any amount of money.

dawn5651

(604 posts)
160. melaina
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 02:54 PM
Jan 2018

melania didn't seem to worry to much when she was boinking dotard when he was married to marla maples...i have zero sympathy for her she has been bought and paid for.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
165. I have a dream she stays at Mar-A-Lago and gets a restraining order against him
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 08:46 PM
Jan 2018

Essentially blocking him from going there

Delicious

Initech

(100,081 posts)
170. What if Trump and Melania got divorced?
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 11:47 PM
Jan 2018

Would that be enough for the "pro family" crowd to finally get turned off?

onenote

(42,714 posts)
176. The problem with this story
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 10:54 AM
Jan 2018

is that if she really had "moved out" of the White House, it would be impossible to keep it a secret. If she was at a hotel, there would be any number of folks who would notice. Plus, I doubt she would move out of the WH without a substantial wardrobe. And there's the matter of her son. Trump doesn't give a rat's ass about him, but I do believe that Melania does and I don't see here abandoning him.

So I rate this story as unlikely.

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
177. Word has been quietly circulating for sometime...
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 11:55 AM
Jan 2018

that she has been staying with her son at a place close to his school. Its 30 minutes or and hour+ outside of Dc in Potomac Md.Getting around DC or in and out of the WH when necessary with a black suburban is easy.

wishstar

(5,270 posts)
181. My hunch is that her parents are also where she and Barron often stay
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 09:47 PM
Jan 2018

Haven't heard a word about them since report that they accompanied her and Barron to WH and that they were getting their own place somewhere nearby in DC area.

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