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"In late 2017 Britain declassified data its diplomats and intelligence agencies collected on what went on in June 1989 when the Chinese military savagely suppressed the main (and most reported on by world media) pro-democracy demonstration in China. All this took place in Beijing, the capital, in Tiananmen Square. The British collected numerous eye-witness accounts of the massacre itself, including the use of troops who were largely illiterate and known to be particularly loyal to the communist government. The Chinese government went to extreme lengths to suppress any data on how many actually died. The official number was 300 while Chinese Red Cross initially released estimates of 2,700 dead but later withdrew that. It turned out that during the massacre Chinese ambulances and other medical personnel were turned away and some of those who got through and did not leave quickly enough were massacred as well.
The British estimate agreed with the American intelligence estimate (over 10,000 dead and 40,000 wounded) that was released in 2014. The British data indicates the number of dead was somewhat higher and Chinese officials who spoke to British diplomatic personnel indicated that the government was not seeking an official number, even if highly classified but the number regularly used by Chinese officials was at least 10,000.) The Chinese sources are reliable but will never be named by the Brits, something they are good at keeping secret.
The British released a lot of details on how the attack was carried out, including the use of promises (quickly broken) to allow demonstrators (including survivors of the first round of killing) to leave. The troops apparently had orders to kill all civilians in the square and destroy the bodies where they fell. This included crushing the dead using armored vehicles, burning those remains and flushing those remains down storm drains. The area was sealed off for over a month so the cleanup could be thorough."
Wow, I didn't know the number was in the 10,000 dead range.
https://strategypage.com/htmw/htintel/articles/20180124.aspx
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)ailsagirl
(22,897 posts)That's horrific
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,609 posts)China is the second most "trustworthy" country now. Germany is first and the US is third which is just slightly more than Russia. Thanks to the fucking moron our status has dropped dramatically.
robertpaulsen
(8,632 posts)not fooled
(5,801 posts)shit-for-brains has been at this wannabe dictator stuff for a long time. And as much as he thinks about anything, he's given this some thought. I guess he HAS read at least one book, the copy of Mein Kampf he kept by his bedside back when Ivanna revealed that disturbing fact.
Gee, it would have been nice if the corporate media had given a good airing to these pronouncements of Candidate Dump. Might have made some voters think twice before deciding to "try something different; he's gotta be better than Hillary."
spike jones
(1,680 posts)colorado_ufo
(5,734 posts)Should be required watching in our high schools.
spike jones
(1,680 posts)When the chief inspector came back from not finding WMD in Iraq, he was asked why the American people were not upset that there were no WMD. He said, The American people are amused to death. That was a direct reference to the album by Waters, Amused To Death. It was written about the first Gulf war, but sounds like todays news, or news of the day for the last 25 years. Listen to the entire album. Here is the title track.