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DFW

(54,447 posts)
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 12:08 PM Jan 2018

Today, January 27th, a date which will live in obscurity

On January 27th, 1945, Soviet troops, advancing toward the eastern border of the Third Reich, arrived at a German installation at the Polish town of Oświęcim. What they found there, and at the nearby Brzezinka, was so stupefying, it brought the phrase "man's inhumanity to man" to a whole new level.

The occupying Germans probably coudn't get their tongues around "Oświęcim" and "Brzezinka" anyway, but as they did with just about every place they occupied, they Germanized the names. Run by a terrifying combination of military precision and uncaring, thorough bureaucrats, the installation(s) became known world-wide as synonyms for organized horror.

The German names give to the two Polish towns are "Auschwitz" and Birkenau." Anyone who thinks the exceptions to German free-speech laws that forbid the NSDAP ("Nazi" Party), it's symbols or its propaganda are too restrictive--just remember what those Soviet troops found when they first arrived there 73 years ago today. Every child in German schools today is required to learn about this in detail. I wish it were so everywhere.

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The_jackalope

(1,660 posts)
2. My mother-in-law was one of the captives liberated from Auschwitz.
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 12:46 PM
Jan 2018

She was there for a year.
Never again.

DFW

(54,447 posts)
3. A Dutch friend of mine was there, too. Number still tattooed on his wrist.
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 12:51 PM
Jan 2018

He is very elderly, completely gone mentally now. Dementia has taken his mind. He was a wisecracking Dutch version of Stan Lee. A fanatic soccer fan, he once accompanied the Dutch national team to a match in Poland and made a side trip to Auschwitz. I asked him why in the world he would ever want to go back there? He said he wanted to stand in front of that "Arbeit Macht Frei" gate and say out loud, "I'm still here, and you're not." And so he did.

LittleGirl

(8,291 posts)
8. OMG, that that is why we can't forget.
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 03:13 PM
Jan 2018

my french teacher in high school had numbers on his arm from one of those places.
I always showed him the upmost respect when I saw his arm.
He usually wore long sleeves but that day, it was warm and he had his sleeves rolled up.
shivers

gabeana

(3,166 posts)
15. In a way what he did was beautiful
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 03:26 PM
Jan 2018

That how I feel when I see the face of the native American they are still here, after centurys of exploitation disease, murder, slavery. There is beauty in resilience

Ligyron

(7,639 posts)
6. I was living in D'land back when the movie "Holocaust" was shown on TV.
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 02:54 PM
Jan 2018

'78 or '79 I think? For the first time I mean.

Wow, some interesting conversations ensued, especially between former SS and their kids. It sure wasn't boring.

keithbvadu2

(36,945 posts)
7. Our conservatives/repubs are so proud that their Nazis had a permit to march in Charlottesville.
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 03:10 PM
Jan 2018

Our conservatives/repubs are so proud that their Nazis had a permit to march in Charlottesville.

Trump "emboldened" the Nazis

America fought a war against the Nazis and supposedly won.

Yet here they are marching to "take back America".

" Michael Von Kotch, a Pennsylvania resident who called himself a Nazi, said the rally made him "proud to be white."

He said that he's long held white supremacist views and that Trump's election has "emboldened" him and the members of his own Nazi group. "

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/fights-in-advance-of-saturday-protest-in-charlottesville/2017/08/12/155fb636-7f13-11e7-83c7-5bd5460f0d7e_story.html?utm_term=.b54a0162fe07

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
9. Only a very small number of Holocaust survivors are still alive today
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 03:17 PM
Jan 2018

In light of the current rise of antisemitism and Holocaust denial, I fear for the future.

DFW

(54,447 posts)
10. In places where it is only in the history books or TV serials, maybe the danger is greater
Sat Jan 27, 2018, 03:29 PM
Jan 2018

Here in Germany, every schoolkid is descended from some who was involved somehow, one way or the other. No one is allowed to forget or claim ignorance.

My girls remember their German grandfather, who only had one leg. The other one was blown off when he was drafted off his family farm, and sent as a 17/18 year old to Stalingrad as cannon fodder. That he survived at all was a lucky break. He was used to working in the cold on his farm, so even with half his leg blown off, he was able enough to move so retreating members of his unit saw he was still alive, where the city boys in his unit had all frozen to death. Their German grandmother still tells of her father, risking the death penalty by listening to British radio during the war. Their neighbor, a Nazi, threatened to report him, but never did. After the war, he begged my MIL's father not to denounce him, reminding him that when the shoe was on the other foot, he chose not to send his neighbor to the firing squad. The favor was indeed returned.

No one in the States had to fear THAT kind of repression, and so our neo-Nazis don't really have the slightest clue what they are celebrating.

malaise

(269,196 posts)
16. +1,000
Sun Jan 28, 2018, 03:28 PM
Jan 2018

The Soviets have never received the credit they deserved for the liberation of those two Polish towns.

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