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Grammy score! Auditions for Fire and Fury spoken word album! (Original Post) nolabear Jan 2018 OP
That's definitely meant to trigger a twitter tantrum. NightWatcher Jan 2018 #1
No kidding! That's what I said on Cha Jan 2018 #21
Almost fell off the couch....freaking HYSTERICAL. n/t Kirk Lover Jan 2018 #2
Here You Go.. Grassy Knoll Jan 2018 #3
Thanks! nolabear Jan 2018 #5
why isn't she the presideeeeeeeeeennnnnnnnnttttttttt Takket Jan 2018 #12
Why isn't she president? Sophia4 Jan 2018 #20
Post removed Post removed Jan 2018 #23
California has 39 million residents. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author murielm99 Jan 2018 #27
I believe in democracy. It isn't about me. It is about our country. Sophia4 Jan 2018 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author murielm99 Jan 2018 #35
Hillary brings it, as usual! LisaM Jan 2018 #4
Grammy winning HRC! democratisphere Jan 2018 #6
Yep. He will lose what's left of his mind! n/t Tess49 Jan 2018 #7
I'm lovin' it! Ohiogal Jan 2018 #8
Best part of the show! JohnnyLib2 Jan 2018 #9
I never expected her at the end!! lunasun Jan 2018 #10
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! NurseJackie Jan 2018 #15
That was just beautiful. Kath2 Jan 2018 #26
Most popular politician! Wwcd Jan 2018 #29
And... Kath2 Jan 2018 #31
Yup. And she's still here and she did not stop talking either. Wwcd Jan 2018 #33
Love this gif!! Wwcd Jan 2018 #28
God I love her. ismnotwasm Jan 2018 #32
She looked so relaxed and happy Rorey Jan 2018 #11
That was good. jalan48 Jan 2018 #13
Here's a full video.. HipChick Jan 2018 #14
classic. too bad she didnt mention her 3 million vote win nt msongs Jan 2018 #16
As always, she is up for anything. Good job Hills! leftofcool Jan 2018 #17
It must really hurt tRump to know all the real stars hate him. Julian Englis Jan 2018 #18
The best message is Im still here and you didnt hurt me, dumbass. nolabear Jan 2018 #19
Exactly, nola! Cha Jan 2018 #22
Yes. murielm99 Jan 2018 #24
Right on! Kath2 Jan 2018 #30
Right on! Kath2 Jan 2018 #36
Omfg! Lotusflower70 Jan 2018 #37
yayyy niyad Jan 2018 #38
 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
20. Why isn't she president?
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 12:29 AM
Jan 2018

Because the electoral college cheats Californians when it comes to voting for the president.

No other reason!

Response to Sophia4 (Reply #20)

 

Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
25. California has 39 million residents.
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 01:03 AM
Jan 2018

The three million votes that Hillary won in the popular vote count and that Trump did not win, many of them if not all of them were in California. If California's votes counted as much per vote as the votes of the rest of the "whole, huge country out there," Hillary would be president.

The electoral college does not represent the popular vote. It represents one elector for each member of the House of Representatives plus 2 electors for the 2 senators from each state.

Because California is such a populous state, the most populous in the Union, we, like all the states with tiny populations, for example, Montana, Vermont (less than 600,000 residents), Wyoming, etc. and all the states with smaller populations than California have only 2 senators to represent our 39 million population. And thus, we are massively shortchanged, massively cheated when the seats on the electoral college are handed out.

California is a liberal state. The Republicans ran our state into debt and did not manage it well. Therefore, I don't expect any Republicans to win statewide elections for quite a while. We are proudly blue and solvent. Proudly blue and solvent and I mean very proud of it.

But we would like it if our votes were worth as much in presidential elections as the votes of all other Americans.

The president is supposed to represent and be there for all Americans. Except that if the president were there for Californians, her name right now would be Hillary Clinton because our votes put Hillary over the top in the popular vote.

It is utterly undemocratic that we still after more than 2 centuries have an UNDEMOCRATIC electoral college rather than a directly elected president. There is no excuse.

The electoral college was the invention of men trying to protect masters in slave states without letting the slaves vote. The electoral college may have made sense when the electors had to ride horses to cast votes in the assembly of the electoral college because, not only were there no cell phones or computers, there were no telephones, no shortwave radios, no telegrams, no planes, no cars, no buses, no trains and only a specific number of electors could meet to vote for the president. Even counting votes was a manual job back then.

The electoral college makes no sense. It has twice in this century inflicted a president who lost the popular vote on our country. GET RID OF THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE.

It is an anachronism that makes no sense.

I could go through the numbers for you here, but I've done some of it before.

The electoral college cheats California and in so doing, cheats all Americans.

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Sophia4

(3,515 posts)
34. I believe in democracy. It isn't about me. It is about our country.
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 01:34 AM
Jan 2018

Twice in 17 years, we have been cheated in that the president who was inaugurated was not the president elected by the majority of the people.

That is not democracy.

It's great that you live in Illinois where your vote counts. I live in California. My vote doesn't count in presidential elections. Nor do the votes of many Californians.

If our votes counted as much as the votes of voters in states like Illinois, Hillary Clinton would be president today.

That should make a difference.

My attitude is about injustice.

We in California are discriminated against when it comes to counting the votes for president based on the population of our state. If we were discriminated against based on our race, our age, our gender, the laws would be changed. The US would amend the Constitution. But because the discrimination against us as individuals, the inequality we face as individuals, is based on geography and the population of our state, factors over which we have no more control than we do over our race, gender or age, we are discriminated against. And Democrats in other states tell us to get over it. Would Democrats in other states tell us to "get over it" if the discrimination against us were based on race, gender or age? I think not.

I think that just as white people who discriminate and gerrymander against racial minorities in their states don't like to hear from those who are discriminated against based on race, people who live in less populated states do not like to hear from Californians who are discriminated against in presidential elections based on the size of the population of their state.

It's no better to discriminate against Californians in presidential elections with the electoral college than it is to discriminate against racial minorities, the elderly or women in elections. Same principle. Same discrimination. Same distortion of the outcome of the election. Same unfairness.

And I will continue to write about this because it is a major, very important issue of justice and democracy. How can we criticize other countries for being undemocratic when our presidential elections are so undemocratic? Sheer hypocrisy.

Response to Sophia4 (Reply #34)

Julian Englis

(2,309 posts)
18. It must really hurt tRump to know all the real stars hate him.
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 12:20 AM
Jan 2018

Stars he wished he could be bigly important instead of being Putin's puppet/

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