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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 10:53 AM Jan 2018

Breaking: SOTU Speech Leaked, Hillary Blamed

On the eve of Donald J. Trump's first State of the Union address, a source tied to the White House leaked the speech to our reporter. It appears that the current President plans to blame all ills facing the nation on his 2016 opponent, Hillary Clinton. Apparently, Trump believes that the former First Lady and Secretary of State is still in charge of things, making it impossible for Donald Trump to accomplish all of the tremendous initiatives he has planned. "Hillary is out there," the speech reportedly says, "plotting against this great country and its brilliant President, believe me! She's the one destroying this tremendous nation. Make no mistake, she is still in charge of everything, and everything bad that has happened since I took office is her fault."

Our close reading of the teleprompter version of the speech shows over 250 mentions of Hillary Clinton, each of which blames her for problems that have arisen since Trump's inauguration. Examples include Trump blaming Clinton for Russian interference in the election, Trump's financial difficulties, and even Trump's 2006 affair with a porn star. According to the speech, Hillary Clinton is responsible for all of it. Rumors have it that additional blame will be added to the speech following Secretary Clinton's Grammy awards reading of a passage from the tell-all book, "Fire and Fury," which Trump will claim Clinton wrote, with the help of former President Bill Clinton.

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Breaking: SOTU Speech Leaked, Hillary Blamed (Original Post) MineralMan Jan 2018 OP
Ha Ha Ohiogal Jan 2018 #1
FFS, Obama is gonna feel really left out if HRC gets all the credit! RKP5637 Jan 2018 #2
Somewhere, there's a photo of Hillary and Obama laughing MineralMan Jan 2018 #3
Kind of like this... Wounded Bear Jan 2018 #22
Yup. MineralMan Jan 2018 #23
"The Obama mismanagement of the economy was terrible. It was a disaster. I fixed it!" dalton99a Jan 2018 #4
Do you have a link? Bloomberg reported this morning that they hear his speech will be still_one Jan 2018 #5
Here's a link to the original source of this breaking story: MineralMan Jan 2018 #6
+1 FailureToCommunicate Jan 2018 #40
Yup. MineralMan Jan 2018 #41
That is a link to this thread MM, unless I am missing something still_one Jan 2018 #7
It is. It is a link to the original source of the story. MineralMan Jan 2018 #8
Problem is MM, with this group occupying the WH you cannot assume something is out of the realm of still_one Jan 2018 #24
You're right. That's why all forms of criticism are appropriate. MineralMan Jan 2018 #29
I am all for it still_one Jan 2018 #30
And once again I wish posts could be tagged as satire Blue_Adept Jan 2018 #9
The tags are within the post and at the end, viz: MineralMan Jan 2018 #10
Doesn't do much good from the topics list with the tags inside Blue_Adept Jan 2018 #12
How much time was wasted for you, I wonder? MineralMan Jan 2018 #14
You're not the only one Blue_Adept Jan 2018 #16
I see. Well, OK, then... MineralMan Jan 2018 #17
Just wish it was good satire zipplewrath Jan 2018 #43
It really is true: satire is dead. Aristus Jan 2018 #11
It's not, really. Satire lives on. MineralMan Jan 2018 #13
I loved your OP, didn't take too long to realize it was satire but nowadays, you really have monmouth4 Jan 2018 #20
Paying attention is always the key, I think. MineralMan Jan 2018 #21
Not if you follow MMs posts - I love them malaise Jan 2018 #25
You're far too kind... MineralMan Jan 2018 #27
Are you subbing for Borowitz now? Great post! erronis Jan 2018 #32
Nah. I'm independent. MineralMan Jan 2018 #33
+1 dewsgirl Jan 2018 #28
Oh, but of course he would....... Heartstrings Jan 2018 #15
What !? left-of-center2012 Jan 2018 #18
Hillary was operating Obama too, see. MineralMan Jan 2018 #19
Dems: kneel, walk out in that order. ananda Jan 2018 #26
don't believe it burnbaby Jan 2018 #31
Hillary also to blame for rigging the election? Zambero Jan 2018 #34
It's all Hillary's fault. MineralMan Jan 2018 #35
Won't you be surprised when Dump... LakeArenal Jan 2018 #36
I think Trump prefers to go after Hillary, though. MineralMan Jan 2018 #37
It is a shame that even MM has to use the sarcasm thingie... LakeArenal Jan 2018 #38
Nah. I look at the DU Recs, and that tells me I don't MineralMan Jan 2018 #39
Both Are Members itcfish Jan 2018 #45
OMG, this is just PITIFUL. Well, if you watch Fox news and listen to RW talk, Hill is President. iluvtennis Jan 2018 #42
I wish he would blame me, too. I need the publicity... Rollo Jan 2018 #44
Maybe this will start a nationwide "Blame Me Too" movement? Rollo Jan 2018 #46
I'm thinking maybe a #Time'sUp hashtag for Trump. MineralMan Jan 2018 #47
Well, Trump could always blame a majority if Americans for voting for Hillary... Rollo Jan 2018 #50
I think you have outdone yourself with this, MM. niyad Jan 2018 #48
Hey, thanks! MineralMan Jan 2018 #49
I wonder if he will blame her for Melania's absence From the SOTU? nt Ilsa Jan 2018 #51
Hmm...What are those two up to? MineralMan Jan 2018 #52
LOL! nt Ilsa Jan 2018 #54
Sadly enough... jmowreader Jan 2018 #53
I love good satire Gothmog Jan 2018 #55
Me, too. MineralMan Jan 2018 #56
"If a window was broken or a drain was blocked up..." Orsino Jan 2018 #57
Indeed. What does it matter, anyhow? MineralMan Jan 2018 #58

still_one

(92,217 posts)
5. Do you have a link? Bloomberg reported this morning that they hear his speech will be
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 11:01 AM
Jan 2018

conciliatory

I cannot see trumps advisors telling him to take the approach outlined in the OP

If trump goes off as the OP suggests it will backfire big time

still_one

(92,217 posts)
24. Problem is MM, with this group occupying the WH you cannot assume something is out of the realm of
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 11:49 AM
Jan 2018

possibility


MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
29. You're right. That's why all forms of criticism are appropriate.
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 12:00 PM
Jan 2018

Including satirizing this presidency. Count on me to continue doing so.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
9. And once again I wish posts could be tagged as satire
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 11:29 AM
Jan 2018

Would prefer to know going into it, to avoid it, or block all of 'em outright while looking for actual news.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
10. The tags are within the post and at the end, viz:
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 11:31 AM
Jan 2018


If everyone knows something is satirical, what, then, is the point of satire?

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
12. Doesn't do much good from the topics list with the tags inside
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 11:33 AM
Jan 2018

For those of us not looking for satire but rather news, it's frustrating and becomes a waste of time.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
14. How much time was wasted for you, I wonder?
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 11:36 AM
Jan 2018

The poster's name is in the topics list. I frequently post satirical material. Perhaps your answer is there.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
16. You're not the only one
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 11:37 AM
Jan 2018

There are quite a few people who think they're clever and post what they believe is satire. It's not limited to just you.

Aristus

(66,381 posts)
11. It really is true: satire is dead.
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 11:32 AM
Jan 2018

When one can no longer distinguish between reality and satire, then satire has bitten the big one.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
13. It's not, really. Satire lives on.
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 11:35 AM
Jan 2018

Read the thread. Most people recognize the satirical nature of this. It uses exaggeration, overstatement, and details that cannot possibly be true to signal the satire.

Perhaps the people who don't detect that are just not reading the post carefully. I don't know. But satire is not dead.

monmouth4

(9,708 posts)
20. I loved your OP, didn't take too long to realize it was satire but nowadays, you really have
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 11:40 AM
Jan 2018

to pay attention...LOL.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
21. Paying attention is always the key, I think.
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 11:42 AM
Jan 2018

Thanks!

Satire that doesn't fool anyone is too broad. Jonathan Swift got death threats over "A Modest Proposal."

erronis

(15,294 posts)
32. Are you subbing for Borowitz now? Great post!
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 12:12 PM
Jan 2018

And while I figured out it was probably satire within the first couple of seconds, I wished that it wasn't. Anything more dumb-dump can do just makes me feel so much better about never voting for a repuglican in the future.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
33. Nah. I'm independent.
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 12:13 PM
Jan 2018

I don't write political stuff for money. I write other stuff that keeps me in beans and tortillas.

Thanks for the kind words, though!

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
19. Hillary was operating Obama too, see.
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 11:40 AM
Jan 2018

She was holding the puppet stick with the strings all along. Yeah...that's the ticket...

 

burnbaby

(685 posts)
31. don't believe it
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 12:06 PM
Jan 2018

he wouldn't give her any credit for anything. I bet he only mentions her, if at all, when he talks about his win of the EC

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
34. Hillary also to blame for rigging the election?
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 12:14 PM
Jan 2018

Throwing a sure-thing win in order to make sure Donald Trump came out on top. Stuff that would have faded away in a heartbeat (Russia) is now consequential and very problematic for Trump because Hillary went and stacked the deck in his favor. Collusion? Yes we have collusion here folks. And just who do you think delivered Anthony Weiner's laptop into the lap of James Comey? Tell you what, it wasn't the tooth fairy!


LakeArenal

(28,820 posts)
36. Won't you be surprised when Dump...
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 12:21 PM
Jan 2018

tricks you and substitutes Obama for Clinton in the speech. To Dump they are interchangeable..

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
39. Nah. I look at the DU Recs, and that tells me I don't
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 12:34 PM
Jan 2018

have to do that. Yet. All sarcasm should fool some of its readers into thinking it's a real story. Otherwise, it's too broad.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
53. Sadly enough...
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 01:35 PM
Jan 2018

Trump probably planned to blame Congressional Democrats for all the campaign promises that went unfulfilled. No wall? Democrats. Tax cut not yooge enough.? Democrats. Obamacare not completely repealed? Abortion not outlawed?

Then they threatened to cut off his golfing and KFC, so he went for the claimed conciliatory track...

I expect at least a couple Hillary slams. That’s who he is.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
57. "If a window was broken or a drain was blocked up..."
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 02:55 PM
Jan 2018

"...someone was certain to say that Snowball had come in the night and done it, and when the key of the store-shed was lost, the whole farm was convinced that Snowball had thrown it down the well. Curiously enough, they went on believing this even after the mislaid key was found under a sack of meal."

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