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SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 12:06 PM Jan 2018

Dems may be doomed in California

Great points made in this story, here:

https://www.independent.com/news/2018/jan/26/dump-trump-climate-democrats-flock-run-congress/

Cali has a system where the top two vote getters in any primary are the two final choices in the final election. We saw two Dems as the only two on the ballot for US Senator because so many votes were cast for both Harris and Sanchez that the closest Republican ended up way down on the list.

But this top-two primary rule could have an unintended consequence. Dems are really anxious to bump-off Republicans who are leaving office in vulnerable districts (like Darryl Issa). So much so, that a shit-ton of Dems are running for office in these purple districts. This means that if Republicans can get just two or three candidates to run against the aforementioned shit-ton of Dems, the large number of Dems will split the vote and only the Repubs will float to the top as the top-two vote getters.

I think we're going to lose these districts because of this phenomenon and because Repubs have better party discipline than we do. The Democratic candidates will hold out to the bitter end, causing the loss of the district. Then, all the finger pointing will begin about how some did not honorably drop out so the other Dems could float to the top. They'll be accused of losing the election for Dems (like Nader did in Florida way back when) and they'll have defenders who'll say they didn't lose the election - rather, the Democratic party didn't run anyone liberal enough...and that whole argument will rear its ugly head again.

I hope the Cali-Dems take this into account and pass new rules that put guidelines on how people run in these districts.

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Dems may be doomed in California (Original Post) SpankMe Jan 2018 OP
In most cases, the voters will take care of that OK. MineralMan Jan 2018 #1
I've never been a fan of the top two system... Wounded Bear Jan 2018 #2
I never liked this system. Don't like dems going demosincebirth Jan 2018 #3

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
1. In most cases, the voters will take care of that OK.
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 12:11 PM
Jan 2018

The thing is that anyone can file and run for office. That's still important. Many who file aren't really serious candidates, and will be ignored by Democratic voters. That can happen in any election.

It's important that people be able to run for office. We should leave that just to party organizations to decide. It's up to voters to sort all the candidates out. Typically, they do that very well, really.

Wounded Bear

(58,662 posts)
2. I've never been a fan of the top two system...
Mon Jan 29, 2018, 12:17 PM
Jan 2018

I know it's an attempt to get 3rd Party candidates in the mix, but the unintended consequences are what this story posits.

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