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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 10:06 AM Jan 2018

What does this part of the SOTU speech mean?

As America regains its strength, opportunity must be extended to all citizens. That is why this year we will embark on reforming our prisons, to help former inmates who have served their time get a second chance at life.


There is no elaboration on that elsewhere in the speech, nor does it seem to reflect any past statements or policies- what is being referenced there?
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What does this part of the SOTU speech mean? (Original Post) oberliner Jan 2018 OP
See this USA Today article from Jan 11th... PoliticAverse Jan 2018 #1
Thanks for the response oberliner Jan 2018 #2
Note that the article says he convened a panel of conservatives... TreasonousBastard Jan 2018 #7
Probably Nothing! atreides1 Jan 2018 #3
They are preparing for their own incarceration Sanity Claws Jan 2018 #4
"Prison reform means: we will put more people in privatized prisons to ramp up corporate profits. struggle4progress Jan 2018 #5
It happens that many in both parties agree on this DeminPennswoods Jan 2018 #6

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
7. Note that the article says he convened a panel of conservatives...
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 10:30 AM
Jan 2018

while talking about it being a partisan problem. Figgers...

I suspect this means more of a push toward prison privatization-- private enterprise is so much better at this sort of thing, dontcha know...

Historically, every 25-30 years or so someone makes the discovery that what we're doing in prison is all wrong. If we lock 'em up and throw away the key, it makes more hardened criminals if and when they get out. If we try rehabilitation, they just fake it and go back to the life when they get out. The pattern repeats and we never come up with anything new.

Prison labor is cheap, and while we have few chain gangs around these days, stuff like phone banks and order filling, light manufacturing, etc., is quite profitable. Why let the state or county have the profits?

atreides1

(16,094 posts)
3. Probably Nothing!
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 10:10 AM
Jan 2018

It's a carrot extended to prison reformers...only he has no intention of following through! Hard to believe that the same man who wanted to execute five men who turned out to be innocent of the crime they were charged with, is in anyway serious about prison reform!

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
5. "Prison reform means: we will put more people in privatized prisons to ramp up corporate profits.
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 10:22 AM
Jan 2018

And this will ensure that former inmates become highly-sought minimum wage employees"

DeminPennswoods

(15,290 posts)
6. It happens that many in both parties agree on this
Wed Jan 31, 2018, 10:25 AM
Jan 2018

but for different reasons. Liberals, Dems, etc want prison reform to keep it from ruining the lives of people who are convicted of things like drug possession/use. Republicans want it to keep from interfering in the lives of white collar criminals. I believe the Kochs are behind pushing this idea in Republican circles and, iirc, the genesis was the white collar conviction of one of the brothers.

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