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https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/01/how-robert-mueller-can-ensure-congress-sees-any-case-against-donald-trump.htmlMuellers Endgame
How he can ensure that Congress sees any case against Donald Trump.
By Frank Bowman
Jan 31, 2018
6:50 PM
This article first appeared on the blog Impeachable Offenses.
One of the biggest open questions about the Russia investigation is what Robert Mueller might do if he were to find legal wrongdoing on the part of the president of the United States. A problem for Mueller, sometimes acknowledged but more often ignored or glossed over, is that he has no independent authority to secure an indictment against a sitting president.
A still more fundamental problem, at least if one hopes that any criminal behavior committed by Trump and uncovered by Mueller might result in the formers removal from office, is that even a felony conviction would not eject the president. Only impeachment performs that trick. So, if Mueller concludes that Trump did commit a crime and he wants Congress to know about it, he needs a way to present his conclusions to Congress. Unfortunately, he has no independent authority to release the results of an investigation that doesnt produce an indictment.
However, there are at least two ways Mueller can force the DOJs hand, or at least make it easy for Congress to do so. Both approaches would comply fully with Muellers limited mandate and the departments internal rules. First, Mueller could prepare a report and recommendation that Trump be indicted after he leaves office and trust that Congress would find means of obtaining the report. Alternatively, Mueller could recommend immediate indictment, fully expecting rejection of that recommendation, and rely on the technicalities of the Justice Departments own rules to ensure transmission of his recommendation and reasons to Congress.
Lets begin with a quick refresher on the limitations of Muellers office:
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I like to think that, as both an undoubted patriot and a career public servant not unaccustomed to harnessing formalism to larger ends, Mueller would not be averse to engaging in a bit of bureaucratic Kabuki theater in the interests of revealing Trumps conduct to Congress while there is yet time to do something about it.
We shall see.
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Muellers Endgame (Original Post)
babylonsister
Jan 2018
OP
I've read that same theory - Mueller has an arrangement with NY AG Schneiderman
TheDebbieDee
Jan 2018
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Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)1. My guess is that the end gambit will start in state courts
Where neither congress nor the president have jurisdiction.
A lot of what the the Trumpians have done are crimes under state law in and of themselves.
TheDebbieDee
(11,119 posts)2. I've read that same theory - Mueller has an arrangement with NY AG Schneiderman
to take up the prosecution of a $ laundering case and fraud and RICO cases in NY state - Trump can't pardon himself or anybody else in cases prosecuted in state courts.
The theory is that AG Schneiderman freeze Trump, Kushner and Donald Trump Jr's assets through asset forfeiture until the cases are resolved...
Xipe Totec
(43,890 posts)3. Donald should be quaking in his diapers nt
BigmanPigman
(51,626 posts)4. Get their assets!
They sold our country for money and should lose every RED(Russian) cent like Bernie Madoff. I love AG Schneiderman!