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spanone

(135,843 posts) Fri Feb 2, 2018, 03:25 PM Feb 2018

Is the Stock Market reacting to the trump memo release?

To the dissolution of our democracy?

To the fact that in a few days we'll be in another government shutdown threat?

To the reality that the party in charge of it all is actually part of the executive branch?

To who is the fucking 'president'?

Just Curious.

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Is the Stock Market reacting to the trump memo release? (Original Post) spanone Feb 2018 OP

Probably the return to trillion dollar deficits Billy Jingo Feb 2018 #1

Sure smells that way. Wellstone ruled Feb 2018 #7

Sort of- it's the bonds market lunasun Feb 2018 #8

To the knowledge that the free ride is over? lisa58 Feb 2018 #2

It's probably just correcting bearsfootball516 Feb 2018 #3

no... lapfog_1 Feb 2018 #4

no, it's reacting to the jobs numbers. Hamlette Feb 2018 #11

It's been volatile all week due to the bond market lapfog_1 Feb 2018 #13

Rising interest rates in the future are a factor. herding cats Feb 2018 #5

It's all about a probable rise in the interest rates. kstewart33 Feb 2018 #6

This. lapfog_1 Feb 2018 #14

Inflation fears. greatauntoftriplets Feb 2018 #9

it's "a" factor, but hardly the biggest one. unblock Feb 2018 #10

This is where bot-trading Turbineguy Feb 2018 #12

Earnings and interest rates Awsi Dooger Feb 2018 #15

We shall see malaise Feb 2018 #16

no....I missed it, the mrs. came in from the grocery store! spanone Feb 2018 #17

Priorities malaise Feb 2018 #18

hahahaa munchies 😎 spanone Feb 2018 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author spanone Feb 2018 #20

Billy Jingo

(77 posts)

1. Probably the return to trillion dollar deficits

Reply to spanone (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 03:27 PM

Feb 2018

Or maybe the end of Yellen's term.

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)

7. Sure smells that way.

Reply to Billy Jingo (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 03:38 PM

Feb 2018

The real deficit for this year is now forecast to be 1.8 trillion,this was posted earlier this week. The Debt Ceiling was increase to 1.5 trillion last year,now we are seeing the real truth. Smoke and Mirrors. The real shit is about to hit the fan.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)

8. Sort of- it's the bonds market

Reply to Billy Jingo (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 03:40 PM

Feb 2018

https://www.ft.com/content/cffcace4-0792-11e8-9650-9c0ad2d7c5b5
Hey trump - It not just about more jobs

lisa58

(5,755 posts)

2. To the knowledge that the free ride is over?

Reply to spanone (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 03:27 PM

Feb 2018

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)

3. It's probably just correcting

Reply to spanone (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 03:28 PM

Feb 2018

The massive spike wasn't going to last forever, it was going to correct itself at some point.

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)

4. no...

Reply to spanone (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 03:30 PM

Feb 2018

it is reacting to the tax cut of 2017

It's complicated... but the government is having to cover shortfalls in revenue due to less taxes... covering by borrowing...

As soon as the bond markets were roilded this week the market started getting "choppy"

That started the "head of the exits" on an already overheated stock market.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)

11. no, it's reacting to the jobs numbers.

Reply to lapfog_1 (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 03:56 PM

Feb 2018

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)

13. It's been volatile all week due to the bond market

Reply to Hamlette (Reply #11)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 04:08 PM

Feb 2018

The job numbers just came out today and they are in line with what was expected.

And this isn't my analysis, it's from Ali Velshi.

herding cats

(19,565 posts)

5. Rising interest rates in the future are a factor.

Reply to spanone (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 03:32 PM

Feb 2018

Also, the strong jobs market could lead to increased wages which aren't good for the market. The market was also due for a correction before those are factored into it.

Trump doing stupid shit doesn't help either.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)

6. It's all about a probable rise in the interest rates.

Reply to spanone (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 03:34 PM

Feb 2018

And the Treasury running short of $$$ because of the new tax law.

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)

14. This.

Reply to kstewart33 (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 04:09 PM

Feb 2018

greatauntoftriplets

(175,742 posts)

9. Inflation fears.

Reply to spanone (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 03:42 PM

Feb 2018

unblock

(52,243 posts)

10. it's "a" factor, but hardly the biggest one.

Reply to spanone (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 03:53 PM

Feb 2018

for the most part the stock market doesn't care so much about much in politics, except to the extent they see it affecting business laws and taxes and regulations.

in and of itself, the markets don't care about which party or how many parties or if it's a dictatorship or not.

as long as they are left alone and get their tax cuts, they are happy.

the memo itself is too fine a point for the market to care much about. there might be a bigger reaction to rosenstein/mueller getting fired should that come to pass. or donnie getting indicted, should that come to pass.

Turbineguy

(37,337 posts)

12. This is where bot-trading

Reply to spanone (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 04:03 PM

Feb 2018

makes things worse.

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)

15. Earnings and interest rates

Reply to spanone (Original post)

Fri Feb 2, 2018, 04:10 PM

Feb 2018

I don't mind because I've been wanting to transfer more into technology stocks, which are really being hit hard today. I have lots of Apple but not enough in other technology funds. I already nibbled today but I'll set some aside in case it's an ongoing correction. In sports betting I always can predict where we're going with the number but that's not the case with the market. So I invest in stages.

The trend seems to be a big drop is normally followed the next day by a smaller drop, then it levels out on the third day.