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...at least Trump and his republican defenders seem to think so.
What if this is all about what's in front of us? What if all of this attack on the FISA warrant is really a specific attack on the FISA warrant on Carter Page?
This second stunt by the WH and Nunes is a risky one which screams of desperation. If you put aside the republicans' and Trump's newfound objection to FISA warrants, and discount the nonsense about the political affiliations of Steele, we're left with a full-front defense by the White House and republicans against the investigation of Page.
What is it about his testimony, what evidence has FBI surveillance of Page offered Mueller that they're so desperate to cover up or discount that they'd lay this all out for everyone to gawk at? Why would they go all in with this memo to defend 'private citizen,' foreign agent for Russia, Carter Page?
Why are they throwing Papadopoulos under the burning bus at the same time they're pulling Page out of the fire? Nunes' memo admits the Papadopoulos information is what "triggered" the initial FBI investigation.
Why is there an effort in the Nunes memo to separate Page and Papadopoulos? Here's a Page interview October 2017 w/Chris Hayes:
Link to tweet
Hayes: Were you guys on e-mail chains together, you and Papadopoulos?
Page: Look, there is a lot of e-mails all over the place when youre in a campaign.
Hayes: Yes or no. Were you on e-mail chains with Papadopoulos?
Page: Probably a few, yeah.
Hayes: Were you on e-mail chains about Russia?
Page: It may have come up from time to time. Again, theres nothing major, yeah.
Hayes: Well, I mean, nothing major. It was enough for him to lie to federal investigators about and then plead guilty to that he was having an intermediary come to him and say you should come to London and talk to someone who has Hillary Clintons e-mails.
What are they trying to cover-up and suppress? "Nothing major"
bigtree
(85,998 posts)Frank Figliuzzi, Fmr. Assist. Dir. of Counterintelligence at the FBI just made my point:
Figliuzzi:
Some Predictive analysis... What I'm smelling here is fear. There is something about this investigation, something about the special counsel's work, something about that Carter Page wiretap... This memo was derived from 'TS"...There was signal intelligence inside that affidavit...most often used against a foreign intelligence service. So, people who are privy to that underlying affidavit are very afraid that it shows intercepted, incidently or deliberately, foreign intelligence services or governments talking about Page, or Page talking with them about the President.
There's significance to the fact that this memo was originally top secret."
Wow.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)I hate having such a poor memory --
wondered aloud the other day whether or not Page is a double agent.
BumRushDaShow
(129,064 posts)just after he testified. Unrolled version here - https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/927710698611896320.html
Good for background info and to refresh on his comings and goings.