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procon

(15,805 posts)
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 05:18 PM Feb 2018

What terrible secret is Trump hiding?

Trump has spent the majority of his presidency plotting and conspiring with Republicans and the rightwing media on stopping the investigations into his relationships with Russia. Why, what is it that he is so desperate to hide?

It it about money, unpaid taxes, money laundering, bribes, that could cost him his wealth send him to prison?

Is he really worried that a salacious sex tape will tarnish his reputation anymore than his well publicized history of lewd behavior, cheating on his many wives, or his views on women as sex objects? There's no legal threat to him there.

Whatever he's done has to be so egregious that he is scared to death of discovery. Is he worried that he has committed some grave crime -- perhaps a capital offense, treason? -- that would put him in legal jeopardy if revealed?

Maybe its something that he promised to do for Russia the the future, something that Putin wants?

I can't figure it out Trump's secret motive in destroying his own presidency over whatever is going on between him and Russia.


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What terrible secret is Trump hiding? (Original Post) procon Feb 2018 OP
It's got to be something really major, really really major. I saw him briefly on TV today, he looked RKP5637 Feb 2018 #1
I think it is money. madaboutharry Feb 2018 #2
Yep. He's terrified of losing his fortune and his empire. GoCubsGo Feb 2018 #20
Simple, really. He's Putin's Puppet... Wounded Bear Feb 2018 #3
OK, but like the Sword of Demosthenes, what's the dark secret procon Feb 2018 #12
Billions in personal debt... Wounded Bear Feb 2018 #14
Wrong greek! tparrett62 Feb 2018 #15
You're right. I debated, didn't think anyone would even know the term. nt procon Feb 2018 #17
I'm a greek geek, I guess. tparrett62 Feb 2018 #18
He and the entire gop leadership took russian mobster money and are now compromised. lindysalsagal Feb 2018 #4
#NRARoubles lagomorph777 Feb 2018 #13
I want to say - following the money trail would cement his impeachment all the way asiliveandbreathe Feb 2018 #5
As his firing of Comey in what in his opinion was the worst way possible... Hugin Feb 2018 #6
They ALL took the dirty Russian money! Drahthaardogs Feb 2018 #7
The best bet is that it's a combination of money laundering and a tape The_jackalope Feb 2018 #8
It's not just 1 secret, but many vlyons Feb 2018 #9
I referenced your post in mine #10 dewsgirl Feb 2018 #11
There are rumors of tapes dewsgirl Feb 2018 #10
The pee tape may be one of the lesser items that Putin has over trump Gothmog Feb 2018 #16
Benedict Donald maintained from the start that no votes had been changed... ElementaryPenguin Feb 2018 #19
Maybe Dear Leader has been reminded of how bald a person gets after being injected Vinca Feb 2018 #21
I am not sure there is anything "terrible." GoCubsGo Feb 2018 #22

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
1. It's got to be something really major, really really major. I saw him briefly on TV today, he looked
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 05:23 PM
Feb 2018

like hell, huge blue bags under his eyes with makeup or something trying to cover them up ... looking like he's under severe stress.

madaboutharry

(40,211 posts)
2. I think it is money.
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 05:24 PM
Feb 2018

Specifically, money laundering. I think it is the nexus between Russian oligarchs, Deutsche Bank, and Trump, Inc. I think it involves not only Trump but his children, including Ivanka and Kushner. It is about decades of tax evasion and secret accounts in the Caribbean.

The entire Trump Crime Family is in jeopardy.

GoCubsGo

(32,084 posts)
20. Yep. He's terrified of losing his fortune and his empire.
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 06:28 PM
Feb 2018

There's a reason Mueller (and Eric Schneiderman) hired the top RICO lawyers. Money laundering. Tax evasion. Fraud. You name it. They're all likely up to their eyeballs in it. I strongly suspect that they're about to kiss it all goodbye, along with their freedom.

procon

(15,805 posts)
12. OK, but like the Sword of Demosthenes, what's the dark secret
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 05:50 PM
Feb 2018

that Putin must be holding over Trump to force his compliance?

tparrett62

(268 posts)
15. Wrong greek!
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 06:05 PM
Feb 2018
Damocles was the guy with the sword hanging over his head.

Demosthenes was the orator who put pebbles in his mouth to learn to speak better.

And for the record, Diogenes was the greek with the lantern looking for an honest man. I actually think there's some meta-joke in there about Trump, but I'm too mentally exhausted from the last year to put it together.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
5. I want to say - following the money trail would cement his impeachment all the way
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 05:25 PM
Feb 2018

around..federal and state...like NY for example...maybe some of the russhkies already caught and tried..singing in rain, just singing in the rain - in Russian of course...I am becoming silly..sorry..but when asked a question I like to give it a shot..I have nothing to base my opinion on...ya know - like this nunes memo goin' 'round....

Hugin

(33,147 posts)
6. As his firing of Comey in what in his opinion was the worst way possible...
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 05:26 PM
Feb 2018

Trump exposed his own greatest fear.

Which is being dumped alone in a field somewhere with nothing. Nobody to look upon him in fear and adulation.

He owes people... Bigly! And somewhere in that miasma that passes as his vile psyche he realizes and fears being stripped of his grandeur and facing the ultimate humiliation.

It's the most classical portrait of a malignant narcissist.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
7. They ALL took the dirty Russian money!
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 05:29 PM
Feb 2018

It's just that simple. They thought Hillary would win. Figured they would not get caught. New York bankers would not lend Trump money because of bankruptcy, so he went to Russia. It's also why he won't release his taxes

The_jackalope

(1,660 posts)
8. The best bet is that it's a combination of money laundering and a tape
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 05:37 PM
Feb 2018

Not hookers peeing on his whatever, but of Trump raping an underage girl.

The story has been swirling around the Twittery in hushed (or hushed-up) tones for a year or more. I'm now inclined to give it credence.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
9. It's not just 1 secret, but many
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 05:38 PM
Feb 2018

I would put at the top of the list, sex trafficking via his 'model agency' that brought in young eastern european women. Followed by money laundering for Russian mobsters. Probably funding gun runners too. Bank fraud thru illegal real estate loans and sales.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
10. There are rumors of tapes
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 05:43 PM
Feb 2018

That are unimaginable, involving very young girls and they are possibly in the hands of the Australian and British intelligence agencies. And definitely post #9.

ElementaryPenguin

(7,800 posts)
19. Benedict Donald maintained from the start that no votes had been changed...
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 06:22 PM
Feb 2018

Therefore, we can assume that Trump and his campaign participated in directing the Russians to the specific precincts/counties they needed to hack the vote in order to steal the Electoral College.

In short, Donald J. Trump conspired with Russia to steal control of the United States government. The highest act of treason in the history of the Republic. Death penalty territory!!

Vinca

(50,273 posts)
21. Maybe Dear Leader has been reminded of how bald a person gets after being injected
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 06:33 PM
Feb 2018

with radioactive material. It probably all goes back to the money and that's why he won't release his tax returns. He's probably been financed by Vlad and since he can't repay the loan he's been ordered to give him the country.

GoCubsGo

(32,084 posts)
22. I am not sure there is anything "terrible."
Fri Feb 2, 2018, 06:33 PM
Feb 2018

It's likely just run-of-the-mill corruption on a massive scale. And, when he gets charged, he stands to lose everything. THAT is what he fears. I don't know if he's guilty of treason, but he is certainly associated with people who are.

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