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grantcart

(53,061 posts)
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 09:33 AM Jul 2012

Major Breaking News - Former Citicorp CEO calls for return of Glass Stegall & bank breakup.

Sandford (Sandy) Weill the chief architect behind mega bank building and combining commercial bank activity with the aggressive and high risk investment banking has now called for a return to the old system and breaking up the big mega banks that now exist. Weill was known as “The Shatterer of Glass-Steagall.” The commenters who followed him on CNBC's Squakbox were stunned and speechless when they heard what their beloved 'Sandy' said about breaking up banks that are 'too big to fail'.




http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/07/25/weill-calls-for-splitting-up-big-banks/

They were words that no one ever expected Sanford I. Weill — the man who helped usher in the age of the financial supermarket — to utter.

“What we should probably do is go and split up investment banking from banking,” Mr. Weill, the former Citigroup chief executive, told CNBC’s “Squawk Box” on Wednesday. “Have banks be deposit takers, have banks make commercial loans and real estate loans, have banks do something that’s not going to risk the taxpayer dollars, that’s not going to be too big to fail.”

His words were essentially a call for a return to Glass-Steagall, the financial regulation that for decades separated commercial banking from investment banking in an effort to keep the financial world safer and easier to regulate. And it was an admission rich with irony.
For it was Mr. Weill, the empire-builder who progressively built up an insignificant Baltimore-based lender into the towering financial services provider named Travelers and who erased Glass-Steagall with the $70 billion union of his firm with Citicorp in 1998.


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Major Breaking News - Former Citicorp CEO calls for return of Glass Stegall & bank breakup. (Original Post) grantcart Jul 2012 OP
I hope this gets noticed Tom Rinaldo Jul 2012 #1
Sounds like he wants to run for office, to me. dixiegrrrrl Jul 2012 #33
Too late, Mr. Weill. annabanana Jul 2012 #2
It will but Romney and other Republicans in a very difficult position. grantcart Jul 2012 #3
This is a ProSense Jul 2012 #18
my point is that when it comes up in the debates or in MASS with Brown/Warren it is a huge weapon to grantcart Jul 2012 #25
That would be a happy day!!! goclark Jul 2012 #19
Still, it's ProSense Jul 2012 #20
It should have been done in 2009. girl gone mad Jul 2012 #39
Well done, well supported. Festivito Jul 2012 #44
Just what I was thinking. lilithsrevenge12 Jul 2012 #46
Wow. K&R myrna minx Jul 2012 #4
I worked for a Citi subsidiary in the late 90's when they bought Travelers. Snarkoleptic Jul 2012 #5
AL Williams grantcart Jul 2012 #9
Yup, Sherman A1 Jul 2012 #42
Very interesting information... virgdem Jul 2012 #14
The heist must be completed. Greybnk48 Jul 2012 #6
What CONGRESS did. They make the decisions. randome Jul 2012 #8
Repeal Graham-Bliley-Leach and bring back Glass-Steagall. n/t BumRushDaShow Jul 2012 #7
LOL "former" Javaman Jul 2012 #10
What now that thinks are fucked you... lonestarnot Jul 2012 #11
Glass-Steagall isn't coming back. Congress lacks the spine to stand up kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #12
WTF does he care... he's cashed in his chips. redqueen Jul 2012 #13
+1T. magical thyme Jul 2012 #30
+1 pam4water Jul 2012 #32
Agree - we have the power of taxation and the IRS can confiscate TBF Jul 2012 #45
Given that he opposed the lavish bonuses taken by investment bankers ... ieoeja Jul 2012 #15
"Weill left Citigroup in 2006" ProSense Jul 2012 #16
Sure, it was "right for the time." malthaussen Jul 2012 #23
Former. No one cares about the obvious anymore. nt valerief Jul 2012 #17
disagree. the folks at CNBC were stunned, and they still like him. grantcart Jul 2012 #24
Youbetcha Berlum Jul 2012 #21
Good to see someone of his former stature out in front on this, elleng Jul 2012 #22
Good it's about time gopiscrap Jul 2012 #26
he knew glass-stagall was in everyone's interests except his own at the time. unblock Jul 2012 #27
He and his friends got theirs. salib Jul 2012 #28
No One will trust you if you don't Regulate and lovuian Jul 2012 #29
Except how is Weill ever going to get Lil Timmy to agree? truedelphi Jul 2012 #41
Sure, sure go ahead and close it...... DeSwiss Jul 2012 #31
k&r n/t RainDog Jul 2012 #34
Thanks for the info FailureToCommunicate Jul 2012 #35
Shorter Weill: JoeyT Jul 2012 #36
I see it different. Once the big fish have eaten all the little fish, they become afraid they will rhett o rick Jul 2012 #37
My response to him is "get fucked, and I hope you die pennyless, asshole". nm rhett o rick Jul 2012 #38
Another 1%-er pulls a Wendell Potter eridani Jul 2012 #40
he says it after he made his pile. just wants to make it hard for other 'entrepreneurs' of finance. HiPointDem Jul 2012 #43

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
1. I hope this gets noticed
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 09:49 AM
Jul 2012

In public, not just in private. This is a big admission by someone who can not be dismissed for not understanding how business works. It was his baby and he is disowning it. I give him credit for being honest and being open about his realization.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
2. Too late, Mr. Weill.
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 09:53 AM
Jul 2012

All you are doing is calling for the drawbridge to be pulled up after you are safely inside.

On edit: If this news sways anyone who can actually DO ANYTHING about it.. kudos.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
3. It will but Romney and other Republicans in a very difficult position.
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 10:00 AM
Jul 2012

I would think that it will help Warren win in MA.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
18. This is a
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 11:39 AM
Jul 2012

"It will but Romney and other Republicans in a very difficult position."

...feel-good call. If he wanted to put Republicans on the spot, he'd call on them to end their attempts to repeal Wall Street reform and defund the CFPB and call on financial institutions to stop trying to weaken the Volcker rule.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
25. my point is that when it comes up in the debates or in MASS with Brown/Warren it is a huge weapon to
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:19 PM
Jul 2012

undercut the Republican argument that there shouldn't be more federal supervision and control.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
20. Still, it's
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 11:47 AM
Jul 2012

time to break up the big banks, and that can be done now.

<...>

The Federal Reserve and the Financial Stability Oversight Council should use section 121 of the Dodd-Frank Act – which gives the Fed the ability to mitigate the “grave threat” that a financial institution poses by limiting banks’ activities or forcing it to divest assets – to break Bank of America into separate institutions. If crafted properly, these smaller institutions would be less likely to fail, would not endanger the U.S. financial system in the event of failure and would be easier to liquidate in an orderly fashion should it become necessary, the petition said.

http://www.citizen.org/pressroom/pressroomredirect.cfm?ID=3511


Snarkoleptic

(6,002 posts)
5. I worked for a Citi subsidiary in the late 90's when they bought Travelers.
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 10:12 AM
Jul 2012

It was an unholy alliance since Travelers was f/k/a A.L. Williams (pariah of the insurance/investment industry).
What followed was an uncomfortable period during which the A.L. Williams people were supposed to develop synergies with Citi.
I left as Travelers had objectionable practices that looked a lot like "twisting" where insurance policies are churned to create new business.
The end result was a lot of people being convinced to dump their whole life (permanent) insurance in favor of term coverage.

The present day incarnation is called Primerica, which walks and quacks like the duck we know as multi-level marketing (pyramid scheme in my view).

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
9. AL Williams
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 10:37 AM
Jul 2012

Are you fucking kidding me? I never knew that.

You might as well as hooked them up to Amway.

No it would have been more ethical to hook them up to Amway.

Wow. I am stunned. I thought AL Williams had just withered away under the weight of the corrupt mass.

Didn't know that they were the same people as Primerica.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
42. Yup,
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:16 AM
Jul 2012

A.L. Williams spun itself into Primerica somewhere along the line. I don't recall the exact point.

virgdem

(2,127 posts)
14. Very interesting information...
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 11:19 AM
Jul 2012

I sold all lines of Insurance for Prudential in the early 80's and at that time, A. L. Williams was well known to be what we termed "replacement artists." They had a very bad rep and we all knew when one of them had been in a home trying to replace our policies. I won't say they were the bane of our existence, but they were quite annoying.

Greybnk48

(10,176 posts)
6. The heist must be completed.
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 10:19 AM
Jul 2012

They've redistributed the wealth from the bottom up to the point that they need to take their booty and run. It will take decades for working people to recover from what they've done.

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
10. LOL "former"
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 10:52 AM
Jul 2012

was this stooge calling for this when he was working for citigroup?

I think we all know the answer to that.

he can go fuck off with his mia culpa soul cleaning bullshit.

pointing out the obvious doesn't make one a hero or a voice of change.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
12. Glass-Steagall isn't coming back. Congress lacks the spine to stand up
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 11:11 AM
Jul 2012

to the 1%, and Mr. Weill is only one person.

The genie is out of the bottle, and the bottle has been smashed.

redqueen

(115,103 posts)
13. WTF does he care... he's cashed in his chips.
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 11:14 AM
Jul 2012

We need to seize assets.

$21 trillion in offshore accounts. Just clean it out. Burn them all.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
30. +1T.
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 03:40 PM
Jul 2012

My first thought on reading about those trillions in offshore accounts is exactly that. Seize it and return it to the people from whom it was stolen. That would be the rest of us.

TBF

(32,101 posts)
45. Agree - we have the power of taxation and the IRS can confiscate
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 09:14 AM
Jul 2012

when there is wrong-doing. It's time to clean house.

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
15. Given that he opposed the lavish bonuses taken by investment bankers ...
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 11:27 AM
Jul 2012

... this should not be surprising.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
16. "Weill left Citigroup in 2006"
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 11:36 AM
Jul 2012
<...>

Weill, a legend of Wall Street who invented the so-called financial “supermarket,” said breaking up the banks would shelter taxpayers and depositors from risky investments. Weill called for greater transparency: “There should be no such thing as off balance sheet.”

Weill left Citigroup in 2006 and has focused on philanthropy since. In March, he and his wife Joan donated $12 million for the completion of the Green Music Center at Sonoma State University. Now that he’s out of the game, Weill is in a cozy place to call for such changes. But the public’s negative perception of the banking system isn’t “going to chance so soon,” Weill said. “I want to see the United States be the leader. And I really believe in our country. We’re not going to be a leader if we keep on trashing our institutions.”

Weill said the model he built at Citi was “right for that time.” But “the world changed with the collapse of the housing market and the real-estate bubble … so I don’t think it’s right anymore.”

Weill did not respond to TPM’s request for comment.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/07/sandy-weill-break-up-big-banks.php

Yeah, he's remorseful!



malthaussen

(17,217 posts)
23. Sure, it was "right for the time."
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:50 PM
Jul 2012

"The time" being when you were lining your pockets, right, Sandy? And now that you've gotten yours, you'd be happy to see that no one else got any.

I like how he seems to characterize the housing market/real estate bubble as something totally unrelated to the practices he was so gleefully shaping. Not me, had nothing to do with that mess, nope.

-- Mal

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
24. disagree. the folks at CNBC were stunned, and they still like him.
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:01 PM
Jul 2012


More importantly this will provide a lot of ammunition in the election and in some key races like Warren/Brown in Mass.

elleng

(131,136 posts)
22. Good to see someone of his former stature out in front on this,
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:30 PM
Jul 2012

in spite of naysayers (here and elsewhere.)
Its a foot in the door to MANDATORY recognition of the problems we have, the origin of the problems, and a (possible) solution, tho the whole financial world will have to change, A LOT, really to improve things. Among other things, let's see what happens with LIBOR, in Britain AND here.

Thanks, Sandy.

unblock

(52,331 posts)
27. he knew glass-stagall was in everyone's interests except his own at the time.
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:41 PM
Jul 2012

he wanted it repealed so he could have his gigantic merger and outsized profits.

now that he's no longer in a position to profit from the absence of glass-stegall, he's all for it.

typical.

salib

(2,116 posts)
28. He and his friends got theirs.
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:49 PM
Jul 2012

Now they need something stable to lord over.

It must be done, but we must also tax the hell out of their ill gotten wealth.

lovuian

(19,362 posts)
29. No One will trust you if you don't Regulate and
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:52 PM
Jul 2012

stop the stealing ....the country has been drained dry and now you see the need for regulation

better late than never

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
41. Except how is Weill ever going to get Lil Timmy to agree?
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 01:41 AM
Jul 2012

And he'll have to do a whole lot of arm twisting to get Bernanke or most of Wall Street to go along with his notion.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
36. Shorter Weill:
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 06:57 PM
Jul 2012

"Now that I and mine have walked away with all the cash we can carry, it's in our best interest the system not utterly collapse and make that money worthless."

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
37. I see it different. Once the big fish have eaten all the little fish, they become afraid they will
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 07:21 PM
Jul 2012

get eaten by the bigger fish. That's capitalism.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
40. Another 1%-er pulls a Wendell Potter
Wed Jul 25, 2012, 09:58 PM
Jul 2012

Good for him. Potter is actively campaigning for universal health care, and I hope Weill will do the same for Galss-Steagall.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
43. he says it after he made his pile. just wants to make it hard for other 'entrepreneurs' of finance.
Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:47 AM
Jul 2012
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