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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMajor Breaking News - Former Citicorp CEO calls for return of Glass Stegall & bank breakup.
Sandford (Sandy) Weill the chief architect behind mega bank building and combining commercial bank activity with the aggressive and high risk investment banking has now called for a return to the old system and breaking up the big mega banks that now exist. Weill was known as The Shatterer of Glass-Steagall. The commenters who followed him on CNBC's Squakbox were stunned and speechless when they heard what their beloved 'Sandy' said about breaking up banks that are 'too big to fail'.
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/07/25/weill-calls-for-splitting-up-big-banks/
They were words that no one ever expected Sanford I. Weill the man who helped usher in the age of the financial supermarket to utter.
What we should probably do is go and split up investment banking from banking, Mr. Weill, the former Citigroup chief executive, told CNBCs Squawk Box on Wednesday. Have banks be deposit takers, have banks make commercial loans and real estate loans, have banks do something thats not going to risk the taxpayer dollars, thats not going to be too big to fail.
His words were essentially a call for a return to Glass-Steagall, the financial regulation that for decades separated commercial banking from investment banking in an effort to keep the financial world safer and easier to regulate. And it was an admission rich with irony.
For it was Mr. Weill, the empire-builder who progressively built up an insignificant Baltimore-based lender into the towering financial services provider named Travelers and who erased Glass-Steagall with the $70 billion union of his firm with Citicorp in 1998.
Tom Rinaldo
(22,913 posts)In public, not just in private. This is a big admission by someone who can not be dismissed for not understanding how business works. It was his baby and he is disowning it. I give him credit for being honest and being open about his realization.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)annabanana
(52,791 posts)All you are doing is calling for the drawbridge to be pulled up after you are safely inside.
On edit: If this news sways anyone who can actually DO ANYTHING about it.. kudos.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)I would think that it will help Warren win in MA.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"It will but Romney and other Republicans in a very difficult position."
...feel-good call. If he wanted to put Republicans on the spot, he'd call on them to end their attempts to repeal Wall Street reform and defund the CFPB and call on financial institutions to stop trying to weaken the Volcker rule.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)undercut the Republican argument that there shouldn't be more federal supervision and control.
goclark
(30,404 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)time to break up the big banks, and that can be done now.
The Federal Reserve and the Financial Stability Oversight Council should use section 121 of the Dodd-Frank Act which gives the Fed the ability to mitigate the grave threat that a financial institution poses by limiting banks activities or forcing it to divest assets to break Bank of America into separate institutions. If crafted properly, these smaller institutions would be less likely to fail, would not endanger the U.S. financial system in the event of failure and would be easier to liquidate in an orderly fashion should it become necessary, the petition said.
http://www.citizen.org/pressroom/pressroomredirect.cfm?ID=3511
girl gone mad
(20,634 posts)As I recall, you opposed any such steps and instead promoted worthless Frank-Dodd incrementalism.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=9412558#9412681
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=8935096
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=8640696
Even going so far as to spread lies about Feingold here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=8656458#8659105
Looks like the next collapse will hit before the election.. and gee, didn't I tell you so?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=315396
Ouch!
Festivito
(13,452 posts)Thank you for going to the trouble.
lilithsrevenge12
(136 posts)myrna minx
(22,772 posts)Snarkoleptic
(6,002 posts)It was an unholy alliance since Travelers was f/k/a A.L. Williams (pariah of the insurance/investment industry).
What followed was an uncomfortable period during which the A.L. Williams people were supposed to develop synergies with Citi.
I left as Travelers had objectionable practices that looked a lot like "twisting" where insurance policies are churned to create new business.
The end result was a lot of people being convinced to dump their whole life (permanent) insurance in favor of term coverage.
The present day incarnation is called Primerica, which walks and quacks like the duck we know as multi-level marketing (pyramid scheme in my view).
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Are you fucking kidding me? I never knew that.
You might as well as hooked them up to Amway.
No it would have been more ethical to hook them up to Amway.
Wow. I am stunned. I thought AL Williams had just withered away under the weight of the corrupt mass.
Didn't know that they were the same people as Primerica.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)A.L. Williams spun itself into Primerica somewhere along the line. I don't recall the exact point.
virgdem
(2,127 posts)I sold all lines of Insurance for Prudential in the early 80's and at that time, A. L. Williams was well known to be what we termed "replacement artists." They had a very bad rep and we all knew when one of them had been in a home trying to replace our policies. I won't say they were the bane of our existence, but they were quite annoying.
Greybnk48
(10,176 posts)They've redistributed the wealth from the bottom up to the point that they need to take their booty and run. It will take decades for working people to recover from what they've done.
randome
(34,845 posts)Put the blame squarely where it belongs.
BumRushDaShow
(129,535 posts)Javaman
(62,534 posts)was this stooge calling for this when he was working for citigroup?
I think we all know the answer to that.
he can go fuck off with his mia culpa soul cleaning bullshit.
pointing out the obvious doesn't make one a hero or a voice of change.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)FUCK YOU Weill.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)to the 1%, and Mr. Weill is only one person.
The genie is out of the bottle, and the bottle has been smashed.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)We need to seize assets.
$21 trillion in offshore accounts. Just clean it out. Burn them all.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)My first thought on reading about those trillions in offshore accounts is exactly that. Seize it and return it to the people from whom it was stolen. That would be the rest of us.
pam4water
(2,916 posts)TBF
(32,101 posts)when there is wrong-doing. It's time to clean house.
ieoeja
(9,748 posts)... this should not be surprising.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Weill, a legend of Wall Street who invented the so-called financial supermarket, said breaking up the banks would shelter taxpayers and depositors from risky investments. Weill called for greater transparency: There should be no such thing as off balance sheet.
Weill left Citigroup in 2006 and has focused on philanthropy since. In March, he and his wife Joan donated $12 million for the completion of the Green Music Center at Sonoma State University. Now that hes out of the game, Weill is in a cozy place to call for such changes. But the publics negative perception of the banking system isnt going to chance so soon, Weill said. I want to see the United States be the leader. And I really believe in our country. Were not going to be a leader if we keep on trashing our institutions.
Weill said the model he built at Citi was right for that time. But the world changed with the collapse of the housing market and the real-estate bubble so I dont think its right anymore.
Weill did not respond to TPMs request for comment.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/07/sandy-weill-break-up-big-banks.php
Yeah, he's remorseful!
malthaussen
(17,217 posts)"The time" being when you were lining your pockets, right, Sandy? And now that you've gotten yours, you'd be happy to see that no one else got any.
I like how he seems to characterize the housing market/real estate bubble as something totally unrelated to the practices he was so gleefully shaping. Not me, had nothing to do with that mess, nope.
-- Mal
valerief
(53,235 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)More importantly this will provide a lot of ammunition in the election and in some key races like Warren/Brown in Mass.
Berlum
(7,044 posts)elleng
(131,136 posts)in spite of naysayers (here and elsewhere.)
Its a foot in the door to MANDATORY recognition of the problems we have, the origin of the problems, and a (possible) solution, tho the whole financial world will have to change, A LOT, really to improve things. Among other things, let's see what happens with LIBOR, in Britain AND here.
Thanks, Sandy.
gopiscrap
(23,765 posts)let's see if the MSM report this widely or not!
unblock
(52,331 posts)he wanted it repealed so he could have his gigantic merger and outsized profits.
now that he's no longer in a position to profit from the absence of glass-stegall, he's all for it.
typical.
salib
(2,116 posts)Now they need something stable to lord over.
It must be done, but we must also tax the hell out of their ill gotten wealth.
lovuian
(19,362 posts)stop the stealing ....the country has been drained dry and now you see the need for regulation
better late than never
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)And he'll have to do a whole lot of arm twisting to get Bernanke or most of Wall Street to go along with his notion.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)- K&R
RainDog
(28,784 posts)FailureToCommunicate
(14,023 posts)JoeyT
(6,785 posts)"Now that I and mine have walked away with all the cash we can carry, it's in our best interest the system not utterly collapse and make that money worthless."
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)get eaten by the bigger fish. That's capitalism.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)eridani
(51,907 posts)Good for him. Potter is actively campaigning for universal health care, and I hope Weill will do the same for Galss-Steagall.