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TomSlick

(11,109 posts)
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 11:14 PM Feb 2018

The enemy of the enemy of the Republic is my friend.

I have witnessed a trend on DU. A recent example was a post about the tweet from Comey comparing Nunes to Joe McCarthy. I did not have to read many responses before the song began, "too little, too late," "he undermined Hillary," "he's a rethugnant," and suggestions that he should engage in obscene (if not physically impossible) acts. The same song is sung when Steve Schmidt or Joe Scarborough, etc. criticize Trump.

I'm old enough to remember Watergate. Watergate was a two-bit burglary and a bungled cover-up and obstruction. What we are facing now is far, far worse. We have a racist, probably mentally ill, would-be autocrat working over-time to replace our democratic Republic with a one-man reich.

Anyone, anyone who stands-up and calls attention to the fact the Republic is in peril should be applauded. All past sins must be, if not forgiven, at least overlooked. The repentant must be welcomed. The recently converted must be applauded.

There is simply too much at stake. All who are resisting Trump's attack on our institutions are in the same fight. Until the Republic is secure, Trump is out of the White House and the place thoroughly fumigated, we cannot throw stones at any one on our side of the lines.

The enemy of the enemy of the Republic is my friend.

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The enemy of the enemy of the Republic is my friend. (Original Post) TomSlick Feb 2018 OP
Well said Slick CanonRay Feb 2018 #1
Agreed MaryMagdaline Feb 2018 #2
True, but TomSlick Feb 2018 #3
We discussed this in a thread about Steve Schmidt ailsagirl Feb 2018 #4
Thanks. An interesting discussions I missed. TomSlick Feb 2018 #5
Thank you. RandomAccess Feb 2018 #6
Yes. MontanaMama Feb 2018 #8
Bravo. Bravo. nt Honeycombe8 Feb 2018 #7
YES, and recommend! babylonsister Feb 2018 #9
Wholeheartedly agree! dchill Feb 2018 #10
I'll give him points but I am NOT overlooking anything Skittles Feb 2018 #11
I respectfully disagree. TomSlick Feb 2018 #15
you want to give them a pass, HAVE AT IT Skittles Feb 2018 #16
That's how the song goes. TomSlick Feb 2018 #18
LOL Skittles Feb 2018 #19
Pax TomSlick Feb 2018 #20
K&R. dchill Feb 2018 #12
I agree on all points ProfessorPlum Feb 2018 #13
Yeah, me too. TomSlick Feb 2018 #17
I would just add that if we are going to get out of this crisis... D23MIURG23 Feb 2018 #14
That's the hope. TomSlick Feb 2018 #21

MaryMagdaline

(6,856 posts)
2. Agreed
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 11:29 PM
Feb 2018

Except for the part about watergate. The White House had its own spy network and they were out to destroy people. But yes, anyone who helps save the country is our friend

TomSlick

(11,109 posts)
3. True, but
Sat Feb 3, 2018, 11:35 PM
Feb 2018

My point is that Watergate was small beer compared to the current threat. Nixon was a dishonest paranoid. Trump is actively working to undo the Constitution and Paul Ryan and his ilk are abetting.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
6. Thank you.
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 12:10 AM
Feb 2018

Some people aren't understanding the essential nature of what you're saying, I think.

WE ARE AT RISK OF LOSING OUR DEMOCRACY. That's not hyperbole. We wouldn't be, IMO, if one of the 3 branches of govt, with our built-in checks and balances, hadn't completely capitulated to Trump, but the GOP Congress has. Not only can we clearlynot rely on them, they are adding to the problem!

We can't afford to turn ANYONE away who will join us in this fight.

Skittles

(153,193 posts)
11. I'll give him points but I am NOT overlooking anything
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 02:13 AM
Feb 2018

that fucker helped put Trump there and he should come CLEAN about that

I am SICK of being told we need to overlook SERIOUS transgressions

TomSlick

(11,109 posts)
15. I respectfully disagree.
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 06:32 PM
Feb 2018

Comey bears a lot of responsibility for Trump being in the White House. He allows that the recognition of that fact makes him "mildly nauseous." That is all the coming clean he is going to do.

The important point is that Comey is now a huge burr in Trump's butt. For me - right now - that's good enough. If Trump was educatable (which I do not believe he is), he would realize that firing Comey is what brought him Mueller and that firing Rosenstein or Mueller would bring him far worse.

Despite himself, Comey has been very important to giving us what hope we have. So yeah, we have to overlook his transgressions.

ProfessorPlum

(11,277 posts)
13. I agree on all points
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 06:18 PM
Feb 2018

I do find it interesting that so many conservative voices are featured here on DU. I'm glad Bill Kristol is taking pot shots at Ill Douche. But I don't give two shits about his opinion about anything else.

TomSlick

(11,109 posts)
17. Yeah, me too.
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 06:35 PM
Feb 2018

But so long as he is taking pot shots at the Orange Abomination, I'm happy to watch. He is an important voice among conservatives. We need more like him explaining that the OA is a clear and present danger to the Republic.

D23MIURG23

(2,850 posts)
14. I would just add that if we are going to get out of this crisis...
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 06:26 PM
Feb 2018

With anything left of our system of government, we are going to need republican help. We will never have large enough congressional majorities to impeach Trump and convict him in the senate without republicans. We are never going to be able to repair the Trump damage without help from republicans. We have to hope that some of them are capable of waking up when they get smacked in the face with reality.

TomSlick

(11,109 posts)
21. That's the hope.
Sun Feb 4, 2018, 07:58 PM
Feb 2018

That is also why we must have Republicans - any Republicans - saying that Trump is a danger. We on DU will not convince Republican representative and senators. Maybe - just maybe - their own kind can show them the light. That's why we must praise conservatives on our side of the battle lines against Trump.

My hope is that one day we'll get back to regular politics about regular political issues. The only question worth considering at this point is whether the Republic will survive.

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